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Learn EU IV or Stellaris?
Hi all, i own EU IV but it looks so itimidating. I've heard CK2 is more complicated but i was wondering if i should start Stellaris or EU IV first? I have no experience in this genre either. Any feedback would be great. Thanks
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Tisreece Apr 8, 2017 @ 6:29pm 
Stellaris is definitely easier to pick up and is more beginner friendly, however if you don't have Stellaris and can't really afford it then I would recommend watching Let's Plays on youtube. They help a lot and if you watch an entire series from start to finish you might even pick up tricks that even people who have played the game for a while might not know.

So yeah, my tip would be to watch some youtube videos, I'd recommend a youtuber called Arumba, he's currently got a new series going for the new expansion, so maybe somewhere to start off. Once you get a feel for the main mechanics I would then recommend just playing as a country like Castille or the Ottomans on Very Easy mode just to pick up the game initially.
Don't buy the base game of EUIV, it's an empty shell of a game.
LuvsMufs Apr 8, 2017 @ 6:38pm 
Originally posted by Tisreece:
Stellaris is definitely easier to pick up and is more beginner friendly, however if you don't have Stellaris and can't really afford it then I would recommend watching Let's Plays on youtube. They help a lot and if you watch an entire series from start to finish you might even pick up tricks that even people who have played the game for a while might not know.

So yeah, my tip would be to watch some youtube videos, I'd recommend a youtuber called Arumba, he's currently got a new series going for the new expansion, so maybe somewhere to start off. Once you get a feel for the main mechanics I would then recommend just playing as a country like Castille or the Ottomans on Very Easy mode just to pick up the game initially.
r u ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded. stellaris is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard as ♥♥♥♥♥♥
uncbasketball500 Apr 8, 2017 @ 6:38pm 
Originally posted by tiberiansun371alexw:
Don't buy the base game of EUIV, it's an empty shell of a game.


I think i have the 2nd and 4th Expansion but would want to play with them off to just learn the core game.
uncbasketball500 Apr 8, 2017 @ 6:39pm 
Originally posted by Tisreece:
Stellaris is definitely easier to pick up and is more beginner friendly, however if you don't have Stellaris and can't really afford it then I would recommend watching Let's Plays on youtube. They help a lot and if you watch an entire series from start to finish you might even pick up tricks that even people who have played the game for a while might not know.

So yeah, my tip would be to watch some youtube videos, I'd recommend a youtuber called Arumba, he's currently got a new series going for the new expansion, so maybe somewhere to start off. Once you get a feel for the main mechanics I would then recommend just playing as a country like Castille or the Ottomans on Very Easy mode just to pick up the game initially.


Yea i've heard Arumba is really good at 4X games (is that the right genre?) . Thanks for the tips, i'll try to sink my teeth into it and see how i do .
brian_va Apr 8, 2017 @ 7:11pm 
he had a tutorial for the last patch or maybe the one before. there have been changes in the lastest patch, but the basics are going be close enough. that would probably be a better start as he is explaining it so a newer player should be ok. also good for dummies like myself that have played for a while, but not well.
CidDaBird Apr 8, 2017 @ 11:22pm 
EU4 is the best option because it has the most content and is a more enjoyable experience over Stellaris to most of the community within both forums. In Stellaris you can't have a fun mid-late game unless your the opposite of me, which you attack everyone you meet. If you can pull that off and you are a absolute​ fanboy of 4X games and space is your thing then I would say get Stellaris cautiously.

To me more content is better, you can do more. Stellaris is a pretty new game with only 3 or 2 dlcs so I haven't played it tons honestly and I have been to late game in Stellaris but because what you can do, I like EU4 more.

EDIT: I like CK2 better actually so whoever told you that it's more complex was kind of lying but it is super easy to start within​ a kingdom like France and steamroll the world with relative ease. If you buy CK2 first I personally have tons of knowledge in it over the knowledge of EU4 and Stellaris put together. Add me if you care to more about these games. I have them all, I don't mind sharing any info about any of them. Have a great one if that's a negative.
Last edited by CidDaBird; Apr 9, 2017 @ 12:00am
Findus Apr 8, 2017 @ 11:40pm 
Originally posted by Loves:
r u ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded. stellaris is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard as ♥♥♥♥♥♥

Its not.
uncbasketball500 Apr 9, 2017 @ 3:14pm 
Originally posted by 2illo:

EDIT: I like CK2 better actually so whoever told you that it's more complex was kind of lying but it is super easy to start within​ a kingdom like France and steamroll the world with relative ease. If you buy CK2 first I personally have tons of knowledge in it over the knowledge of EU4 and Stellaris put together. Add me if you care to more about these games. I have them all, I don't mind sharing any info about any of them. Have a great one if that's a negative.


I've heard differing things about CK2 but i do own it. Can i message you or anyone on this thread for more tips if i start playing?
CidDaBird Apr 9, 2017 @ 11:54pm 
Yeah anytime just message me, if you have questions I'll answer them.
[TFM]bobcat Apr 10, 2017 @ 12:04am 
Originally posted by Findus:
Originally posted by Loves:
r u ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded. stellaris is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard as ♥♥♥♥♥♥

Its not.

yeah, it really isnt that hard to pick up, especially compared to EUIV
Last edited by [TFM]bobcat; Apr 10, 2017 @ 12:04am
uncbasketball500 Apr 11, 2017 @ 1:36pm 
Originally posted by 2illo:
Yeah anytime just message me, if you have questions I'll answer them.


Thanks dude :). Just sent a FR.
OpenSheep Apr 11, 2017 @ 6:00pm 
stellaris is bare bones as ♥♥♥♥ right now, eu4 is clearly better if you can pick up most of the dlc on a sale.
Ficelle Apr 11, 2017 @ 6:58pm 
Stellaris is easier to learn and understand (playing it right now to take a break from EU4)

While it is better than at launch and quite relaxing to play, with plenty of rooms for improvments, i still find EU4 way better.

Main problem with Stellaris is war, 1 battle decides the whole outcome with no real way to keep a position or defend.
Stronger fleet always wins, and it is a no match.
Diplo is also very weak.

Also, but there isnt much to do about it, France, Russia or Japan speak more to me than Qarax Imperium or Trix Confederation...
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