Duo nations

[Bushbabby]

What would be 2 neighbouring nations for me and an inexperienced friend to play to help him learn the game? I want to be able to babysit him incase he gets in a pickle

[Don-Roberto]

Originally posted by BPLayingDownSmoke:

What would be 2 neighbouring nations for me and an inexperienced friend to play to help him learn the game? I want to be able to babysit him incase he gets in a pickle

Poland and Lithuania,Austria and Hungary,Casttil and France(are a good combo),or Casttil and Portugal(to help him to colonize),or The Ottomans and Walachia to help him form Romania....and so on(in my opinion)(i have not much exp in the game but from what i see these are pretty powerfull)

[Mud]

France & England ;-)

Lose your friends.

[Ficelle]

I think France (for the experienced player) + Castille (for the newbie) is the best combo.

Castille is great to learn every area of the game, great by herself, even better protected by France.

[Piktonss]

ottoman muscovy they dont border but could be a major alliance

[Ibenhauser]

Thats a negative

[Bushbabby]

Thanks for ideas everyone

[Mud]

Originally posted by Ficelle:

I think France (for the experienced player) + Castille (for the newbie) is the best combo.

Castille is great to learn every area of the game, great by herself, even better protected by France.

This is a fantastic idea

[Rabob]

Originally posted by Ficelle:

I think France (for the experienced player) + Castille (for the newbie) is the best combo.

Castille is great to learn every area of the game, great by herself, even better protected by France.

Castille + England is also an idea.

Or take the ungodly alliance of France and Ottomans

[Hartassen]

You've played almost 1200 hours of this game and you don't know the answer to this question yourself?

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[Lakortar]

You could also both play the same nation^^

[Archi]

For the first playthrough, Castile (experienced) + Portugal (new).
For the second playthrough, France (experienced) + Castile (new).

[Vladimiś]

I would say England and France. Your friend could just stay on british isles for early to mid game and learn basic mechanics while beating down on scotland and irish minors. He would give back your mainland cores maybe except for most south ones and you would revoke guarantee of scotland. After that you could invade iberia (thats why you could leave him one core so he can also claim some land).
He could learn basic things like wagin wars, imprtance of trade, colonization, maybe some vassal managment with scots/irish minors

[toby.stephen24]

Originally posted by Gustavus Anonus:

I would say England and France. Your friend could just stay on british isles for early to mid game and learn basic mechanics while beating down on scotland and irish minors. He would give back your mainland cores maybe except for most south ones and you would revoke guarantee of scotland. After that you could invade iberia (thats why you could leave him one core so he can also claim some land).
He could learn basic things like wagin wars, imprtance of trade, colonization, maybe some vassal managment with scots/irish minors

He might have some issues with succesion and rebellion if your friend plays as england. though I suppose you could help him through the war of roses.

[momo]

venice, ottomans

[Der Dutchman]

Japan. Pretend to be his friend and STAB HIM IN THE BACK. Just like uniting real Japan!

:D

I think the friend will have less fun if you're playing a super power and he's relegated to just following you along. You should try to make it a challenge (assuming you're already a master of the game).

In that regard I'd say avoid the super nations of France and Ottoman and aim towards something more... unique. Like play Castille yourself and let him play Morocco and beat up Portugal/conquer north africa and face the constant threat of Ottoman invasion while trying to expand into west Africa.

Basically any nation where he's playing a lesser power but you're providing a buffer on one side so he doesn't get wrecked on his first playthrough.

Another fun alternative would be Vij and Bahamains, with you playing vij but not expanding north much, instead focusing on exploration and colonization / conquest of Africa (or something stupid like that). Basically giving him the buffer he needs to expand north and deal with a likely problem with Delhi, Timurads, and eventually Ottoman or Ming.