How Do I Form Netherlands as Holland

[NUCLEAR_DETONATION]

I know what I need but how to break away from burgundy

[sweater boy]

You will have to declare an Independence War against Burgundy. This will cause you to be at war with:

-Burgundy
-Flanders
-Brabant
-Nevers

and MOST OF THE TIME
-Brittany

Try and look for countries that have rivaled Burgundy, they will surely support your independence. You should try the following nations:

-France
-Castile
-Denmark
-England (although if you choose France (which you definitely should) you should avoid England)
-Austria (!!!)

If you manage to get Austria on board you're very lucky, since you will not have to deal with Unlawful Territory once you start taking over the rest of the Netherlands.

Then it's just a case of declaring your war on Burgundy and letting your allies mop up the Burgundian armies. Some advice: try and claim BREDA first by building Spy Network in Burgundy and then claiming the province from Brabant. This will give you one province you need to form the Netherlands and is the only province you need from Brabant/Burgundy, which means you can ignore them for a large portion of your game (unless you feel the need to take over Burgundy).

[Panzashrank]

for long time i played vanilla eu4 and without support for independence just wait for burgundy attack provence and sometimes france will let u free or if burgundy attacks lüttich austria grands u independence

[ThatRabidPotato]

How do you get these countries to support you? I raised relations with Austria and Denmark to their max, but I can't call them as allies and there's no option to ask them to support me that I see.

[tonypa]

ThatRabidPotato původně napsal:

How do you get these countries to support you? I raised relations with Austria and Denmark to their max, but I can't call them as allies and there's no option to ask them to support me that I see.

You need to buy the Conquest of Paradise DLC or the El Dorado DLC.

[Kastuvas]

#PAYWALLED LUL

[Jaridan]

#buyfof2bucksdurinsaleslul

[Shai-Hulud]

You only need France and Austria. Also take Antwerp instead of Breda. Antwerp is a far better province. You can get breda later.

[Frozenkhan]

Pengu původně napsal:

#PAYWALLED LUL :emofdr:

Not exactly, the historical independence wars still happen because of their own events and scripts but the actual feature itself was implemented through later patches and therefore its DLC.

[sweater boy]

Barack Hussein Obama původně napsal:

You only need France and Austria. Also take Antwerp instead of Breda. Antwerp is a far better province. You can get breda later.

If you're solely aiming to form the Netherlands ASAP then taking Breda is the better choice.

[Shai-Hulud]

-InestriX původně napsal:

Barack Hussein Obama původně napsal:

You only need France and Austria. Also take Antwerp instead of Breda. Antwerp is a far better province. You can get breda later.

If you're solely aiming to form the Netherlands ASAP then taking Breda is the better choice.

Admin 10 isn't ASAP. Taking Antwerp, releasing Brabant/Flanders from their unions with Burgundy in the first war is the way to go. Brabant is a super easy target once you break their union.

Have you ever seen a holland>netherlands guide? They literally always take Antwerp in the independence war.

[sweater boy]

Barack Hussein Obama původně napsal:

-InestriX původně napsal:

If you're solely aiming to form the Netherlands ASAP then taking Breda is the better choice.

Admin 10 isn't ASAP. Taking Antwerp, releasing Brabant/Flanders from their unions with Burgundy in the first war is the way to go. Brabant is a super easy target once you break their union.

Have you ever seen a holland>netherlands guide? They literally always take Antwerp in the independence war.

I barely look at guides, most of the time I find a way that works and stick with it. I'll maybe try the way you're presenting, it's probably better.

[Shai-Hulud]

-InestriX původně napsal:

Barack Hussein Obama původně napsal:

Admin 10 isn't ASAP. Taking Antwerp, releasing Brabant/Flanders from their unions with Burgundy in the first war is the way to go. Brabant is a super easy target once you break their union.

Have you ever seen a holland>netherlands guide? They literally always take Antwerp in the independence war.

I barely look at guides, most of the time I find a way that works and stick with it. I'll maybe try the way you're presenting, it's probably better.

Yeah your strategy definitely works. And since breda is a required province I understand wanting to grab it early.

Antwerp is a coastal center of trade though and has higher development. It will dramatically increase your trade income (2 of your 3 provinces will be coastal centers of trade).

Doesn't really matter...it just puts you a little further ahead.