Need help getting elected to Emperorship

[Cortez]

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I took Diplomatic and Influence ideas and they still don't want to vote for me. Recently I have fought Religion war, took Catholitic side and Austria just peaced the moment we were winning making Religious Peace across the HRE. Dumb AI.

They probably don't vote for me because most of them are Protestants, well only Bohemia is Catholitic and Austria too, but she is not elector. The question I am asking you, and myself too is should I flip to Protestant? I wanted to stay Catholitic because Lithuania got the best Catholitic bonuses, so I can get tons of Papal Influence, but if I should move to Protestant side I would loose all the bonuses. I also wanted to stay Catholitic because I have been playing with a guide on Steam, but I guess I am a bit too slow, or perhaps unlucky, and the Religious War fired.

[Malvastor]

Having a different religion and not being in the Empire give you a -100 modifier to the electors' rating of you. It also looks like your relations with them (or at least the one you have selected in the screenshot) aren't that high. I'd say pick the elecors that are closest to voting for you, and butter them up like hot toast. Get relations as high as you can, and see if they'll vote for you. Meanwhile, try to get some of them in a PU. Or, if they have a non-HRE ally you can declare on, force vassalize them and wait for them to stop hating you for it. Your subjects are a lot more likely to vote for you.

[Cortez]

Originally posted by Malvastor:

Having a different religion and not being in the Empire give you a -100 modifier to the electors' rating of you. It also looks like your relations with them (or at least the one you have selected in the screenshot) aren't that high. I'd say pick the elecors that are closest to voting for you, and butter them up like hot toast. Get relations as high as you can, and see if they'll vote for you. Meanwhile, try to get some of them in a PU. Or, if they have a non-HRE ally you can declare on, force vassalize them and wait for them to stop hating you for it. Your subjects are a lot more likely to vote for you.

Well, I don't improve relations with them because I know it won't help me by doing just that. I could have claimed Bohemia's throne from 1450 year and I still can, and I am thinking of doing that, because those darn bohemians are threatened by me, even though Poland ( my PU partner) doesn't fabricate claims on them, but Bohemia does. So if they are Threatened they don't join in my offensive wars, and they only vote for themselfs. Selfish ♥♥♥♥♥.

They don't have any allies outside HRE, sadly.


Until I won't get a right answear I seriously can't countinue my campaign, because I can't decide if I should flip protestant or not, and the time is running, because Ottomans with my Vassal Livonian Order ( Which is HUGE, really.) going to declare war on me, so before they do that I have to declare war on Ottomans first, but sadly, they outnumber me about 1:2.4

[Bird the III]

with those neg modifiers you wont be elected for a long time. its vassalize electors for you most ikely. as for your rebellious vassal supported by ottoderp. develope theire country where its cheap thats 5 lib per dev, improve relations, spent prestige ect cause it doesn'r sound you stand a chance in a fight.
worst case drop them (but usually you should be able to get them under control)

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by hit me up fam:

Originally posted by Malvastor:

Having a different religion and not being in the Empire give you a -100 modifier to the electors' rating of you. It also looks like your relations with them (or at least the one you have selected in the screenshot) aren't that high. I'd say pick the elecors that are closest to voting for you, and butter them up like hot toast. Get relations as high as you can, and see if they'll vote for you. Meanwhile, try to get some of them in a PU. Or, if they have a non-HRE ally you can declare on, force vassalize them and wait for them to stop hating you for it. Your subjects are a lot more likely to vote for you.

Well, I don't improve relations with them because I know it won't help me by doing just that. I could have claimed Bohemia's throne from 1450 year and I still can, and I am thinking of doing that, because those darn bohemians are threatened by me, even though Poland ( my PU partner) doesn't fabricate claims on them, but Bohemia does. So if they are Threatened they don't join in my offensive wars, and they only vote for themselfs. Selfish ♥♥♥♥♥.

They don't have any allies outside HRE, sadly.

Well, the big concern when fighting an HRE state is usually whether Austria gets involved. If you're not worried about her or she's distracted fighting someone else (or just hates Bohemia/is exhausted and won't help), you might be able to directly declare a PU war.

[Cortez]

Originally posted by Malvastor:

Originally posted by hit me up fam:

Well, I don't improve relations with them because I know it won't help me by doing just that. I could have claimed Bohemia's throne from 1450 year and I still can, and I am thinking of doing that, because those darn bohemians are threatened by me, even though Poland ( my PU partner) doesn't fabricate claims on them, but Bohemia does. So if they are Threatened they don't join in my offensive wars, and they only vote for themselfs. Selfish ♥♥♥♥♥.

They don't have any allies outside HRE, sadly.

Well, the big concern when fighting an HRE state is usually whether Austria gets involved. If you're not worried about her or she's distracted fighting someone else (or just hates Bohemia/is exhausted and won't help), you might be able to directly declare a PU war.

Well Austria is my ally, but she will protect the HRE. Well, since noone is supporting Austria for being Emperor I could declare war on HRE when some lame small country gets emperorship. That could work out, just again, I don't want to waste time. I hate wasting it. Time is the most valuable thing in this game, imo.

[Cortez]

Originally posted by Bird the III:

with those neg modifiers you wont be elected for a long time. its vassalize electors for you most ikely. as for your rebellious vassal supported by ottoderp. develope theire country where its cheap thats 5 lib per dev, improve relations, spent prestige ect cause it doesn'r sound you stand a chance in a fight.
worst case drop them (but usually you should be able to get them under control)

Drop them?!? NEVER! I am at 99.9% on integrating them, and they got bunch of development, maybe even more than me. I made them a bit rebelious ( Just over 50%) so I wouldn't integrate them, because they haven't finished few cores that I have gave them loooong time ago. I will better fight Ottomans, loose the war and loose few provinces than drop them. Absolutely madness. But you didn't knew that, so not a problem.

I don't have the dlc to develop my vassal's land.

EDIT:
How do you suggest me to vassalise electors?

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by hit me up fam:

How do you suggest me to vassalise electors?

Since electors have a pretty big malus against accepting vassalization, you're pretty much stuck with forcing it on them in a war.

[Cortez]

Originally posted by Malvastor:

Originally posted by hit me up fam:

How do you suggest me to vassalise electors?

Since electors have a pretty big malus against accepting vassalization, you're pretty much stuck with forcing it on them in a war.

Well that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ obvious, Mr. Sherlock, but I am asking how should I vassalize them through war without suffering lots of casualties. I also would like to keep Austria's alliance, since she is the one that probably keeps us both alive (me and austria) from Ottomans.

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by hit me up fam:

Originally posted by Malvastor:

Since electors have a pretty big malus against accepting vassalization, you're pretty much stuck with forcing it on them in a war.

Well that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ obvious, Mr. Sherlock, but I am asking how should I vassalize them through war without suffering lots of casualties. I also would like to keep Austria's alliance, since she is the one that probably keeps us both alive (me and austria) from Ottomans.

No need to get pissed. Try and find one that's allied to a non-HRE minor. A little Italian state, maybe. If no minors are available, look for one that's allied to a bigger non-HRE state that you can still take. All that failing, you might be stuck having to wait until Austria's not willing to join before declaring on the elector directly. Maybe attack the Ottomans or somebody with Austria at your side, and let the war run until their manpower is drained.

[CTHOMP]

Once you vassalize electors the emperor won't kick them out? I think I noticed one time when I vassalized an electors that country lost voting status.

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by clthomps:

Once you vassalize electors the emperor won't kick them out? I think I noticed one time when I vassalized an electors that country lost voting status.

I guess it depends on the situation in Europe. I managed to do it as France without the electors getting kicked. I'm not sure why they got kicked in your game.