France: Protestantism, Reformed or Stay Catholic?

[linutika]

Just as said above, should I convert or stay Catholic?
Right now I'm just sitting having my dynasty on 3 other thrones and colonizing Arguin in Africa to get to Americas.

[erneiz]

If you are planning to go Revolutionary you can't stay Catholic. Otherwise, all three have it's uses for France. Catholic France can have all the Pope action active and still have influence left over for Curia. Reformed bonuses is pretty straight forward and is pretty much 'fire and forget', while Protestantism needs you to pay a bit more attention to juggle between the Aspects to get the most out of them.

[linutika]

Why can't I be revolutionary and catholic?

[Exarch_Alpha]

Catholic is best. Cardinals are easy to get very early already, and +1 stability from papal influence use is simply too good. Unlike Venice/Florence etc you don´t have a reason at all to conquer Rome.

Of all european majors, Protestant is IMO only a fully viable choice for England, because of the bonus to development (therefore making its achievement easier). For any other, it´s just roleplaying.

[Waxen]

Religion is important but it's not so crucial that it can ruin your campaign or even make it noticeably harder. I recommend you just take what comes naturally (if your provinces are converting themselves faster than you can fight them, join them instead) or roleplay.

[Glokenpop]

Originally posted by naijin 2:

Why can't I be revolutionary and catholic?

Revolution gives you -100 papal influence, so unless you are Christ reborn you will never be able to get any bonuses from Catholic.

[himax]

If you plan to stay friendly with Spain, I'd say stay Catholic (and it's easier for colonizing).

[linutika]

Originally posted by FlyingDutchman:

Originally posted by naijin 2:

Why can't I be revolutionary and catholic?

Revolution gives you -100 papal influence, so unless you are Christ reborn you will never be able to get any bonuses from Catholic.

I have like 200 PI at all times anyways :P

[linutika]

Originally posted by max-xam1:

If you plan to stay friendly with Spain, I'd say stay Catholic (and it's easier for colonizing).

Isn't protestant easier for colonizing due to that option thingy to export heretics to colonies?

[Glokenpop]

Originally posted by naijin 2:

Originally posted by FlyingDutchman:

Revolution gives you -100 papal influence, so unless you are Christ reborn you will never be able to get any bonuses from Catholic.

I have like 200 PI at all times anyways :P

It's -100 per year gain and if you don't spend it you lose massive bonuses like extra stbility, legitimacy, manpower, money and mercantilism. There's also -5% tech cost, extra diplomat and more papal influence form controlling the papacy.

[himax]

Originally posted by naijin 2:

Originally posted by max-xam1:

If you plan to stay friendly with Spain, I'd say stay Catholic (and it's easier for colonizing).

Isn't protestant easier for colonizing due to that option thingy to export heretics to colonies?

Well, that's the only positive aspect about protestant's colonization (is it an option or just an event? I never turn protestant..... ever).

I was saying that it's easier because the Pope gives you rights on a whole region if you're first to create a colonial nation*. Other Catholics won't try to take land in the area you claimed that way or you get a colonisation CB on them and they have -25(I think) relation with the pope.

Maybe this is also because of that or Protestants can do this too: claiming the whole region without spending any diplo points in a peace deal with natives? You have to create one claim though, but you annexe natives without much cost and don't need the religion idea.


Plus you don't have to defend from Spain outside of Europe.

[linutika]

Originally posted by max-xam1:

Originally posted by naijin 2:

Isn't protestant easier for colonizing due to that option thingy to export heretics to colonies?

Well, that's the only positive aspect about protestant's colonization (is it an option or just an event? I never turn protestant..... ever).

I was saying that it's easier because the Pope gives you rights on a whole region if you're first to create a colonial nation*. Other Catholics won't try to take land in the area you claimed that way or you get a colonisation CB on them and they have -25(I think) relation with the pope.

Maybe this is also because of that or Protestants can do that too: claiming the whole region without spending any diplo points in a peace deal with natives? You have to create one claim though, but you annexe natives without much cost and don't need the religion idea.


Plus you don't have to defend from Spain outside of Europe.

Yeah, as France pope claimed me the Carribean and Canada. I have +80 settler increase in Canada and +55 in Caribbean and so far all is going good, Spain doesn't hate me yet, England colonized Newfoundland but decided to go away from Canada after that and got their colonies in Mexico and US demolished by tribes.