Europa Universalis IV

Europa Universalis IV

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Marcus Apr 24, 2017 @ 1:20pm
English-French Unification war
Newbie playing as England and got the mission to force a union onto France my long term enemy and rival. I won the wor and can now do the peace deal below!

Not sure what it all means and what I have to do after that and the consequences?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=912640097
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Whoo hoo! Congraaduations! Almost no one can do it for their first or even third time as England.

Ok, you need to keep their liberty desire low. This means having a diplomat sit there and keep relations at +50 at all times. You need to make sure your army is bigger than theirs. I'd go for a ratio of 1 cavarly to 3 infantry.

Actually if you clobbered their army, I'd say you don' need to rebuild yours just yet as long as you outnumber them 3 to 1. Once they are more than a third of you, keep recuriting until you either outnubmer them 3 to 1 or hit England's force limit, whichever is first.

You also need a good ally. Burgandy or Austria are the best chocies, but Castile works too. Invite Portugal into every offensive war you get into until they balk.

Try to reach tech 7. This allows your colonial range to be larger for diplo. This allows a new set of ideas for adm. This will allow cannons, and I'd 7 say cannons in your main stack is good enough (beccause honestly until level 10 cannons kind of suck... then they become waaaay more pwoerful than they really were in the Napoleonic or Crimean War era becuase the devs don't understnad battle tactics).

In the mean time, try to focus on expantion. Canada, Carridean, and Mississpi are lucrative nodes. Canada and diplo 7 allows you to jump further south. Alternatly, you can try to take an island for Portugal without a claim for the island hop. The Eastern North America (13 colonies) region is a bit of a troublemaker region and mgiht not be noob friendly. I'd say jsut grab 3 regions in that region (not 4 becuase your future CNs can make colonies outside of thier colonial range if adjacent).

In Europe, marry out. I usually have 3 marriages. The idea is that the dynasty can spread and make more PUs. if you want to antagonize Castile, Navarre is good for that. Look for opporunties to expand, like the Swiss.

Once you reach diplo 7, you are probably clsoe to the 50 year mark. Integrate france. Once that is done, you can forge claims all over the medditeranean and rule the world! You might need relgious ideas to take care of them muslims because this game doesn't have a kebab genocide option (which would wreck havoc on the virtual world but make the player's life easier)
Omniconda Apr 24, 2017 @ 1:41pm 
if you make the peace for the Union you basicly get france as a Vassel that doesnt pay money but will be a huge war machine for you.
Assuming you can keep him loyal (which you can if you let him do teh fighting in your wars) you will become almost unstopable.
After 50 years you can intergrate him or if your much bigger than he is at that time and have high dip rep you may get a small chance to just inherit him each time your ruler dies.

personal unions with large nations can really change your game :)
SirSanjiSlacks Apr 24, 2017 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by LaBern:
Newbie playing as England and got the mission to force a union onto France my long term enemy and rival. I won the wor and can now do the peace deal below!

Not sure what it all means and what I have to do after that and the consequences?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=912640097
So basically they go under a personal union of you, but due to being rivals, them being large and having a large forcelimit, and possibly having people support them, they will have alot of possible liberty desire.
Combat it with a diplomat at all times, try to appease them in events, make sure you're allied with austria if possible, or if not then castille.
As said above keep your army larger than theirs, and if war of the roses pops be very careful with your forces.
Marcus Apr 24, 2017 @ 1:47pm 
thanx tiberiansun37 very exciting but newbie here so all a bit of a mystery though!

See screenshot my concern is that it says on ruler's death personal union will end??

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=912656186
SirSanjiSlacks Apr 24, 2017 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by LaBern:
thanx tiberiansun37 very exciting but newbie here so all a bit of a mystery though!

See screenshot my concern is that it says on ruler's death personal union will end??

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=912656186
You need to have positive relations with them or it will end.
Give them gifts if needed.
Also save right now and make sure you cango back to this (or if ironman, then copy the save to your desktop)
Marcus Apr 24, 2017 @ 1:56pm 
Yeah my current ruler is 71 so could die any moment and France really hate me -200 opinion.

Not on ironman yet as I am learning. I save often and can go back to war and drag it out hopefully ruler dies and new heir takes over who is 14 now? Will that work dragging war out?
Last edited by Marcus; Apr 24, 2017 @ 1:57pm
SirSanjiSlacks Apr 24, 2017 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by LaBern:
Yeah my current ruler is 71 so could die any moment and France really hate me -200 opinion.

Not on ironman yet as I am learning. I save often and can go back to war and drag it out hopefully ruler dies and new heir takes over who is 14 now? Will that work dragging war out?
it would
Marcus Apr 24, 2017 @ 2:03pm 
Heir is 14 Mary great stats so will it help if I try drag war out till she takes over then imrove relations?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=912665654

Edit: will it be ok if current ruler dies while this war is going on though?
Last edited by Marcus; Apr 24, 2017 @ 2:06pm
Æthelwulf Apr 24, 2017 @ 2:16pm 
That mission is just to troll the player. France will have permanent 100% Liberty Desire, good luck.
SirSanjiSlacks Apr 24, 2017 @ 2:23pm 
Originally posted by LaBern:
Heir is 14 Mary great stats so will it help if I try drag war out till she takes over then imrove relations?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=912665654

Edit: will it be ok if current ruler dies while this war is going on though?
yes, that won't matter
Marcus Apr 24, 2017 @ 3:32pm 
Dragged it out till King died! Bloody Mary queen now only 15 and started improving relations with me new vassal France! :steammocking::steamhappy:
Originally posted by LaBern:
thanx tiberiansun37 very exciting but newbie here so all a bit of a mystery though!

See screenshot my concern is that it says on ruler's death personal union will end??

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=912656186

This means their relations are too low. This is MUCH easier than the liberty desire (their propensity to be ♥♥♥♥♥ during wars and et your rivals to start wars for their independence). Just dump a diplomat there and give them a gift that improves relations by about 8 (max is 25, but your duplomat will take care of the rest).

Originally posted by LaBern:
Yeah my current ruler is 71 so could die any moment and France really hate me -200 opinion.

Not on ironman yet as I am learning. I save often and can go back to war and drag it out hopefully ruler dies and new heir takes over who is 14 now? Will that work dragging war out?

Don't do ironman while learning. In fact, I'd suggest not doing ironman at all. I know I can do big acomplishments like the achievments say, I don't need steam to record them, I know I did it. But if you want to do ironman later if you like having saves fried when your computer laggs during a save, do it once you master the ropes.

Originally posted by LaBern:
Heir is 14 Mary great stats so will it help if I try drag war out till she takes over then imrove relations?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=912665654

Edit: will it be ok if current ruler dies while this war is going on though?

Yes, it looks like dragging on will work.

Once William dies, I think you can make calais the staple port. It will annoy Burgandy, but hopefully they will live you over time.

Start here, give a small gift (doens't have to be the max, 8 will do), and have a diplomat live in Paris. And never give France territroy if you win a war with their help.

You did VERY well to win the Hundred Year's War as a beginer. England isn't a noob country at the start. The Maine event garuntees war with France and you often lsoe the lucrative norman territory.
Marcus Apr 24, 2017 @ 4:19pm 
Sweet tiberiansun thanks for your positive comments only way lol

Six nations have formed a coalition against me now lol whoo hoo how scary :steammocking: Just checking coalitions only fire when I attack one of the coalition members right?

Sorry but what you mean by making Calais the staple port?
PotatoPope Apr 24, 2017 @ 4:31pm 
making calais staple port is something every english plaer should do, basically gives you mercantislism(more trade power) and allows you gain more of the $ flowing into the chanell.
Yargo Apr 24, 2017 @ 4:33pm 
Originally posted by LaBern:
Six nations have formed a coalition against me now lol whoo hoo how scary :steammocking: Just checking coalitions only fire when I attack one of the coalition members right?

Sorry but what you mean by making Calais the staple port?

The coalition can attack you as well if they think they can win. It should be relatively easy for you to win though, as long as you can keep them off the Islands.


The Staple Port thing is a decision England can take that gives you 10% Mercantilism and improves Calais by giving it 25% more local tradepower and 50% more local taxes. If you haven't taken it yet, then it should be in the Missions and Decisions tab.

designate_the_staple_port = {
potential = {
tag = ENG
owns = 87
NOT = { 87 = { has_province_modifier = the_staple_port } }

}
allow = {
is_at_war = no
adm = 2
adm_power = 40
NOT = {
1744* = {
owned_by = ROOT

* Antwerpen
Last edited by Yargo; Apr 24, 2017 @ 4:45pm
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