DARK SOULS™ II

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Marinade Dec 24, 2014 @ 12:18pm
Fencer/Rogue guide
I was searching for a sold agility based guide, but i couldn't find any. If you know about a good one, then please share. :D Merry Christmas everyone!
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Marinade Dec 24, 2014 @ 12:31pm 
Anyone? :(
Jill Dec 24, 2014 @ 12:38pm 
basic stats you should aim for:
  • 50 VGR - this is an essential for any build, will usually get you to 2000 health combined with other stats
  • 20 END - this is the minimum you should have, but the more the better. you don't need tons of it though, because rapiers and other dex-based weapons don't use too much stamina per swing
    ?? STR - this depends on what specific weapon you decide to use later on, but make sure it's at the bare minimum required to hold your main weapon one-handed
  • 40 DEX - this is the softcap for DEX scaling, can go higher but save that for later on when you have no other areas to spend points on
  • ?? ADP - this is one of the two stats that increases your agility (AGL), which is essential for invincibility frames when rolling and backstepping. make sure you have enough to get your AGL to 100

    options:
  • ATN/INT/FTH - you'll mainly use these to buff yourself and your weapons. ones I'd recommend are either Great Magic Barrier for increased elemental defense or Sacred Oath for extra physical defense and extra physical damage. they don't stack so don't try to use both.

  • 10 / 14 VIT - if you have the Sunken King DLC, this must stay at 10 if you plan to use the Third Dragon Ring, and 14 if not because you'll definitely want to use Flynn's Ring as part of your build, which gives your weapons extra damage based on how low your maximum carrying capacity is, up to 50 extra damage. if you go past 10/14 VIT then the ring will give you less damage.

it's hard to suggest weapons simply because they vary so much. find a weapon with a moveset that you like and can do well with.

armour will have to stay light because of your VIT restrictions (should you decide to use Flynn's Ring), but it's mostly about what looks good to you, defenses don't matter too much

rings you could use include:
Chloranthy Ring
Third Dragon Ring
Ring of Blades
Flynn's Ring
Stone Ring
Old Leo Ring
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Last edited by Jill; Dec 24, 2014 @ 12:42pm
Marinade Dec 24, 2014 @ 12:41pm 
Wow Thanks! I love you man! :D
Jill Dec 24, 2014 @ 12:41pm 
Originally posted by ◄gamseb►:
Wow Thanks! I love you man! :D
no problem dude, merry christmas
The Miurge Dec 24, 2014 @ 5:53pm 
BY OSIRIS BALLS, Dex build is THE ONLY THIG YOU'LL SEE in ALL THE PVP, yet someone asks how to BUILD it.

Get a rapier, Sh*tload of DEX and INT, buff the weapon and play as all the other tryhards in the queue to die under mah powerstanced Greatswords, you filthy Dex Peasant! ;D
mdcpaladin Dec 24, 2014 @ 6:44pm 
Originally posted by cerret:
Originally posted by ◄gamseb►:
Wow Thanks! I love you man! :D
no problem dude, merry christmas

excuse me, its happy holidays
Bird of Few Birds Dec 24, 2014 @ 6:57pm 
Originally posted by I am the liquor:
Originally posted by cerret:
no problem dude, merry christmas

excuse me, its happy holidays
No, it's Festive December, you doofus.
Marinade Dec 24, 2014 @ 7:02pm 
Originally posted by super scare:
Originally posted by I am the liquor:

excuse me, its happy holidays
No, it's Festive December, you doofus.
Actually its http://i.imgur.com/hG7FDtJ.webm
I was thinking of making a Rogue guide specificly~ but the effectiveness of the build and its techniues makes other players extremely angry - often times resulting in them activating Cheat Engine, as the playstyle is very 'dishonorable'.

Also, most of the tactics can arguably be perfomed by any other type of build~ usually with much more success in battle, so I'm kinda conflicted about it. The more direct approach as far as just dealing damage is concerned, or effectivness of other things like parrys and riposting, that depends on weapons and shields and not really 'playstyle' so to speak.

Sorry I couldn't be more help tho... :/ #shrug
illu Dec 24, 2014 @ 8:35pm 
If you were trying to do a low end dex build for pvp (melee only) I would recommend the following:

30 vgr - probably a good idea to pump that more when you get to 200ish SL

20 end - at least 20, maybe pump it to 30 later on but it isn't a priority

Base/minimum vit - With Flynn's ring you'll be doing a great bonus in dmg and 3rd dragon ring is a really good idea for most builds which will increase your load a tad

Base att - if you plan on using heals/buffs you can definitely pump this up a bit later on

Whatever str you need - obvious, str doesn't really need to be pumped outside of what you need for your weapon and maybe power stancing if you're into that kinda thing

40 dex - you can push this up to 50 later on if you really wanted to, but it isn't the most important thing in the world. again, the increase would really only be for power stancing

Adp - your goal is to have 105 agility, this is really the cap for agility, so if you ever start putting points in attunement lower this with a soul vessel to stay at 105

Int/Fai - Both of these can be neglected for a while, especially if you're pvping and only plan on using poison/bleed infusions. Might be a good idea to bump them later on if you aren't doing poison/bleed and infusing your weapons, str/dex scaling is awful and an elemental infusion is a vast improvement on any weapon. I personally usually aim for 30 in each when I pass SL 200 for pure melee builds, as it will give you great dark/fire bonus and a respectable magic/lightning bonus, and access to support spells and buffs especially.

Armor/weapons: I can't really tell ya what to do there. There's a lot of thrusting swords and smaller rogueish weapons that are all good, just depends on the moveset you enjoy

Rings: if I was running this spec I would be using Flynn's, Chlorthany +2, Third Dragon, and then either Stone or Old Leo depending on if you were using thrust weapons or not
Last edited by illu; Dec 24, 2014 @ 8:36pm
Caedes Dec 24, 2014 @ 9:10pm 
Start Bandit, get enough Dex to power stance Rapiers bought from Lenigrast...

Step 3 Profit!...
mdcpaladin Dec 25, 2014 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by super scare:
Originally posted by I am the liquor:

excuse me, its happy holidays
No, it's Festive December, you doofus.
ah right. i gotta be careful or obama, the first wookie, harry, piglosi and the pc police will come a knocking along with sharpton, jackson and a bunch of "i cant breathe" and "hands up dont shoot" protesters to loot and pillage my town as a show of solidarity
fistor Dec 25, 2014 @ 5:46am 
Originally posted by I am the liquor:
Originally posted by super scare:
No, it's Festive December, you doofus.
ah right. i gotta be careful or obama, the first wookie, harry, piglosi and the pc police will come a knocking along with sharpton, jackson and a bunch of "i cant breathe" and "hands up dont shoot" protesters to loot and pillage my town as a show of solidarity
lol, you nailed it!
mdcpaladin Dec 25, 2014 @ 7:23am 
Originally posted by fistor:
Originally posted by I am the liquor:
ah right. i gotta be careful or obama, the first wookie, harry, piglosi and the pc police will come a knocking along with sharpton, jackson and a bunch of "i cant breathe" and "hands up dont shoot" protesters to loot and pillage my town as a show of solidarity
lol, you nailed it!
im always nailing it! im no filthy casual bread
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