Trainer User ahead!

[Chibiscus]

Hello,
I just met a guy called Hopelessknight in the game and summoned him as a white phantom. He didnt do anythin just used me as a meetshield so I decided to send him home, I tried it multiple times but it didnt work. As I was about to record it he crashed my game and corrupted my save file. Please don't summon this guy! If you would like to report him here is his steam ID:
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198116699427/

[mr1029384756]

Reporting Steam IDs anywhere but the designated channels From set up can get you banned, dude.

[Chibiscus]

It says that nowhere in the rules! It is allowed to post steam id's. Naming and shaming is not against the rules in any way.

[mr1029384756]

ReApMrs K の投稿を引用：

It says that nowhere in the rules! It is allowed to post steam id's. Naming and shaming is not against the rules in any way.

It is, but you are old enough to make your own decisions.

But you also have to accept the consequences for when you are wrong, which you truly are. Read the last sticky on the first page of the forum, it has "Name-shaming" in its title.

[Chibiscus]

really? Show me anywhere from the rules from steam that it says "Steam naming-and-shaming is forbidden"

[mr1029384756]

http://steamcommunity.com/app/236430/discussions/0/540742399408559597/

Read the part about how it will not be tolerated on the Steam forums by the moderators. People get banned from the forums for name-shaming, bud.

Look, I get that you are angry and that you have to make a new character, but do you really want to push this? I'm not a mod, obviously, and all I'm suggesting is that you delete the thread for your own sake. But do what you will.

[Chibiscus]

this post is a lie! it is not written by steam therefore it is invalid! please inform yourself better before you keep moaning about other people.

[Chibiscus]

they are moderators they cant make up rules!

[Dashiell]

ReApMrs K の投稿を引用：

this post is a lie! it is not written by steam therefore it is invalid! please inform yourself better before you keep moaning about other people.

http://i.imgur.com/mvncXjN.png
My even can't even.

[Chibiscus]

And also btw. what you are doing is backseat moderating which is highly against the steam rules, which is btw. officially listed by steam.

If the moderators come to this post and ban me for doing something that isnt listed officially by steam but decide to do nothing about someone who is backseat moderating which is listed than these moderators need to be sorted out by steam.

[mr1029384756]

ReApMrs K の投稿を引用：

And also btw. what you are doing is backseat moderating which is highly against the steam rules, which is btw. officially listed by steam.

If the moderators come to this post and ban me for doing something that isnt listed officially by steam but decide to do nothing about someone who is backseat moderating which is listed than these moderators need to be sorted out by steam.

I don't decide policy nor do I enforce it. I also am not reporting you for name-shaming and nor am I spouting "GIT GUD SCR*B!" all over this thread. All my intent was to give a guy a bit of advice before he let himself act the a** and get himself in trouble just because he couldn't deal with his non-problems like an adult.

So, in short: it sucks that happened to you, welcome to Dark Souls 2, be careful who you invite next time, don't name-shame just because your feelings got hurt, and don't tempt the mods to prove you wrong on simple principle.

Have a nice evening.

[Chibiscus]

mr1029384756 の投稿を引用：

ReApMrs K の投稿を引用：

don't name-shame just because your feelings got hurt

Call it what you want this is backseat moderating. Think about it, these mods cant make up the rules just because they all get together and agree that something is against the rules, doesnt make it so but if you think thats okay, that they can do that, it wont be long before they start closing threads, because people moan they dont like the game. A moderators job is to inforce the rules not make them up. If left on checked these sort of things can really get out of hand.

[Riker]

The reason there is a sticky on the front page saying that naming and shaming is against the rules is because it is easily abused. You have no proof he was hacking and for all anyone here knows you just have a personal vendetta against him.
It is also there to prevent "Report ******* he is a hacker" threads which if there was no moderation, would be everywhere and clog the board up

Reporting him will get him banned from the discussion board, not the game by the way

[Hunubul]

I won't copy all the proof here, but
1) Moderators here have the right to make up rules, so you can get banned from this forum by going against the rules set here.
2) Posting steam id isn't against the rules, but name shaming is. I believe you, but there is no evidence he is a hacker.

3)
"Edit: For those who try to claim it isn't in the rules and guidelines. It's not listed but it's a standard rule on this community and you can ask any Moderator on the Volunteer Moderator team and you'll be told the same thing. Name and shame is not allowed anywhere on this forum."
That means: name and shame isn't listed because of it's nature it breaks other rules. No need to list here, because it's against the rules anyway.



I suggest you remove this thread for your own sake. Hackers can get revenge, you can get banned, what else do you want? You only dig your own grave with this thread. But it's just a friendly advice. You do what you want.

[Empress Misery]

ReApMrs K の投稿を引用：

It says that nowhere in the rules! It is allowed to post steam id's. Naming and shaming is not against the rules in any way.

http://store.steampowered.com/online_conduct/

"•Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others."

Naming and shaming = Defaming. The forum rules are a subset of those rules, the link of which is on the damned page with the forum rules. :p

[Lцсᶖаᶇ º¹]

ReApMrs K の投稿を引用：

this post is a lie! it is not written by steam therefore it is invalid! please inform yourself better before you keep moaning about other people.

Steam actually hands over all authority to the devs/publisher when it comes to these forums, probably the entire community hub too. They can make up whatever rules they like.