drangleic armor ruined the game for me.

[Lifting man]

find mlg armor after 3 hours in game.
realise it's the best armor in the game after 40 hours.

spend the entire game walking around with that bloody red cape.

and I don't even want to hear about " oh but it need twinkling titanide to upgrade while other armors don't thus making it bla bla bla " because most people dont upgrade thier armor.

and don't even try telling me how you mlg elite pro's who use the term "fashion souls" and how much armor is irrelevant and useless and doesn't make a change and I need to use the best looking one , while it might be true , this game has RPG elements with numbers and i should strive to use the "best" armors I can , I should strive to use the system the game is telling me to use.

and no , it doesn't weight too much compared to X or Y , because weight is pretty much irrelevant in PVE if you dont fat roll its all the same. all the stuff that weight less are FAR inferior ,and generally not worth using in terms of the RPG system. saving 10 pounds for losing 150+ armor v.s all strikes is just retarded.

no. just no.
broken , stuipid item placement. the guy who is responsible should be fired.

I'm at nashandra now and no other armor is better in the entire freakin game unless it's some wierd armor you are not supposed to find without reading about it on some wiki like havel's or something. or spending 15k souls on some arab merchant who obviously has some sort of brain injury who sells overpriced noob armor sets for the chance to get alva's , because without some WIKI I wouldn't be able to find that out. thus it is irrelevant.

[Shifty Mario]

https://imgur.com/a/X2CiO

[Lobo]

If the game is ruined then don't play it

/THREAD

[Lifting man]

Originally posted by Shifty Mario:

https://imgur.com/a/X2CiO

thanks for proving the " mlg nerds " part of my post.

I wasn't talking about PVP and how the "true mlg cool kids" use wierd combinations of items to feel different.

the game is awesome , and it's not that big of a deal.

I just wish i would have never found that ♥♥♥♥ , because it totally ruined it. from level 20 to 140 I look the same.

[Shifty Mario]

Originally posted by Lifting man:

thanks for proving the " mlg nerds " part of my post.

I wasn't talking about PVP and how the "true mlg cool kids" use wierd combinations of items to feel different.

the game is awesome , and it's not that big of a deal.

I just wish i would have never found that ♥♥♥♥ , because it totally ruined it. from level 20 to 140 I look the same.

Vengarl Souls 2: Prepare to Vengarl edition

Also you realize "mlg pros" would just use the top of the line stuff. They don't do fashion souls.

[Legas]

Being lightweight makes the game much easier.

Longer rolls and faster stamina regen beats armor rating anytime. I never play over 30% equip load.

[Legas]

Originally posted by Shifty Mario:

Vengarl Souls 2: Prepare to Vengarl edition

True that, when OP finds Vengarl's armor he'll snap.

[Reilight Ryner]

Brother. Armor is bloody irrelevant in this game. There is nothing a haveler does that a deprived cant do (im talking about killing).

And you know what? I did a test.

A weapon with 600 physical damage fully upgraded STILL dealt at least 400 damage to a fully armored up havel. Why? because of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and stupid logistics of this game.

Parry is OP. Back stab is BS. Counter damage is a ♥♥♥♥♥. And all that armor is just dead weight.

Since this game encourages evading so much, the only purpose left for the *armor* is fashion.

[Lifting man]

Originally posted by Artorias (Legas):

Being lightweight makes the game much easier.

Longer rolls and faster stamina regen beats armor rating anytime. I never play over 30% equip load.

Listen dudes , I started playing this game a complete noob.
im talking about the legit first timer playthrough most dudes would run.

most dudes won't find a freaking talking head in a rubble of bones.
most dudes won't realise you can spend 15k on a merchant to get better gear.
let's be honest here.

also I realised pretty quickly that playing without a shield is suicide , and dodging without spending points in adaptability is insanely difficult and not worth it because the window is so freaking small if you can just stand there with a huge shield taking the hits , even if you are slow as hell.

so no , being lightwieght , or being fast even doesn't make the game any easier for the noob , it makes it harder.

I reached the dragon area with those huge guys who are kinda like the guys in hide's tower but on crack , the ones who use the mace swing it so fast like it's a freakin dagger , you cant dodge that crap , they just unleash 4 swing combo's one after the next like psychopaths.

so dying 1000 times to learn all the enemies moves so you know the perfect roll timing is not called "easier game" bra , come on


also you dudes kinda miss the point , most noob's on thier first or second run won't realise that armor values are bullcrap , they would just naturally use the best value armor they can find, because the game has a system that encourages you to use it. its only bloody natural to not use that cool sword you find because it does less damage , its natural because this game is kinda like an RPG.

finding the best value armor in the game after 3 hours ruines it for us noobs who treat the game as it is , an rpg. I mean the system is so complex and has so many values it's natural to assume the numbers mean something,.

[Shifty Mario]

Originally posted by Reilight Ryner:

A weapon with 600 physical damage fully upgraded STILL dealt at least 400 damage to a fully armored up havel. Why? because of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and stupid logistics of this game.

Parry is OP. Back stab is BS. Counter damage is a ♥♥♥♥♥. And all that armor is just dead weight. Since this game encourages evading so much.

You might actually do more in Dark 1 with same damage and defense. Around a week ago, someone found the formula: Damage = (AR – (DEF * 0.1)) * 5/6 * MOD
MOD is attack swing modifier. Different attacks have different modifier along with 2H

[TamOShatter]

I found those guys easy to dodge because I had under 50% equip load.
By 100 Agility you can pretty much roll THROUGH everything, it's ridiculous.

[CloudSeeker]

You do know it really isn't the "best" armor right? Its a good armor but isn't the best. Its actually pretty heavy and that force you to put levels into vitality so you can roll fast with it. If you fat roll having good stats really doesn't matter much because you are to slow to avoid most of the damage. If you can get as light that you can fast roll you can put all other levels in damage instead. The Faraam set weaker but it is also 4,2 equip load lighter and got pretty decent stats. But then you also have the Alonne knight set that is only 1,2 equip load heavier and beat the dranglic set when you start to upgrade it a little. Vengarl's set is also a set you get for free and beats the dranglic set easily without any updgrades at all but is 0,9 equip load heavier. The Drakeblood set is a armor you get pretty late but is almost as good and easier and cheaper to upgrade, and if you haven't upgraded its actually better without any upgrades then the dranglic set. However there is something you need to keep in mind with that dranglic set, and that is that you do not get the helmet early and that is a pretty good helmet as it stands for like 17% of the sets stats. You got to pair it with some other helmet until then if you want to maximum stats and they are not even half as good.

The Dranglic armor is a noob armor, there are better and especially if you are a veteran that have learnt to value speed. The only part of that set I normally use is the shield until I get a better one.

[Lifting man]

Originally posted by TamOshanter01:

I found those guys easy to dodge because I had under 50% equip load.
By 100 Agility you can pretty much roll THROUGH everything, it's ridiculous.

they just slam the ground you land on. one little mistake and you are toast because you also probably have crap poise and the first hit stuns you and the followup hit murders you.

being a tank with a huge tower shield is much easier.

[Lifting man]

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

The Dranglic armor is a noob armor, there are better and especially if you are a veteran that have learnt to value speed. The only part of that set I normally use is the shield until I get a better one.

that's what im saying , I AM A NOOB and i got tricked into using that armor for 95% of the game , like most other noobs im sure. just feels cheap and stuipid.

can we all agree that NOT finding that kind of armor so early on would be better ?

the guy who decided it was a good idea is a bloody idiot.

[TamOShatter]

Originally posted by Lifting man:

Originally posted by TamOshanter01:

I found those guys easy to dodge because I had under 50% equip load.
By 100 Agility you can pretty much roll THROUGH everything, it's ridiculous.

they just slam the ground you land on. one little mistake and you are toast because you also probably have crap poise and the first hit stuns you and the followup hit murders you.

being a tank with a huge tower shield is much easier.

Maybe it is but it's a lot less effective, i.e. when you get good at rolling you can clear areas twice as fast without losing any HP.

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by Lifting man:

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

The Dranglic armor is a noob armor, there are better and especially if you are a veteran that have learnt to value speed. The only part of that set I normally use is the shield until I get a better one.

that's what im saying , I AM A NOOB and i got tricked into using that armor for 95% of the game , like most other noobs im sure. just feels cheap and stuipid.

can we all agree that NOT finding that kind of armor so early on would be better ?

the guy who decided it was a good idea is a bloody idiot.

So? Why should I care if you are not looking at the items you get. I am pretty sure you got the Vengarl set but in worst case you forgot the helmet. Nothing is forcing you to use the armor you know, and the bosses are pretty easy when you learnt how to roll and block. My record to get to dranglic castle is on SL 28 so saying you are forced to pick good defence is just plain wrong. I used the knight set for most of that time.