Surviving Majula pit without cat ring

[Kirmukarmu]

Doing low SM character for post-patch shenanigans, how much health do I need to survive the fall without any fall damage items/spells?

EDIT: Turns out you need about 1370 health to survive all falls. Take off armor and roll off edges to reduce damage.

[svatem1]

well, it reminds me of buying that ring very early before i actually levelled up at all, putting it on, jumping down and ... dying

[Lцсᶖаᶇ º¹]

I don't think it's viable, you need well over 1k HP.

[Kirmukarmu]

I tested this for a while and with 1375 health I was able to just barely survive the first drop (the longest AFAIK). This needed 23 Vigor with WoB and Life rings, starting as Knight class (I had also put 1 point in dex). Eventually made it all the way down too.

However it was so narrow that you need to be in human form, possibly wasting all your effigies very quickly if you die too many times (like I did, during my testing).

But this saves precious 13k souls from the ring. I read that you take less fall damage if you roll and if you have no armor on, not sure about the latter but it definitely seemed that rolling left me with a bit more HP than just walking off the ledge.

[svatem1]

what is your desired target SM level? what is the cost of SL at that time? does it even compare to 13k?

Originally posted by vaunumies:

I tested this for a while and with 1375 health I was able to just barely survive the first drop (the longest AFAIK). This needed 23 Vigor with WoB and Life rings.

However it was so narrow that you need to be in human form, possibly wasting all your effigies very quickly if you die too many times (like I did, during my testing).

But this saves precious 13k souls from the ring.

[Kirmukarmu]

I'm aiming for 100k-150k SM range, so yeah I'd say cat ring is waste since it would be roughly 10% of my total SM just to make that drop that I can now make for free. All I need after that is warp back to Majula and get a Soul Vessel.

[cooperman]

You need 1200hp to get down the pit without the ring (you must be naked)

[brumey]

i want my the pit, the rotten and black gulch to be muuuuuuuuuuuch harder! ist too easy compared to blighttown from dks or 3.1 from demons

[Kirmukarmu]

Originally posted by cooperman:

You need 1200hp to get down the pit without the ring (you must be naked)

Didn't cut it for me. If at 1375HP I just barely survived the first fall with nothing but the rings on, I'm doubting that to be honest. With cat ring of course you can make the fall apparently with as little as ~700-800HP, but without it I can't see how 1200 would be enough.

Originally posted by brumey:

i want my the pit, the rotten and black gulch to be muuuuuuuuuuuch harder! ist too easy compared to blighttown from dks or 3.1 from demons

I prefer it easy. Blighttown is IMO the worst area in DS1, though at least you can skip almost all of it with Master Key. At least DS2 doesn't have toxic dart dudes and those infinitely spawning wasps. Gutter isn't much fun either though, especially if you are trying to just run past everything.

[cooperman]

If your going down the pit for a fragrant branch of yore try stunlocking Licia of Lindeldt off hydes tower of flame with the broken thief sword she will drop the key stone to get to harvest valley where there are two of them.

[Kirmukarmu]

Originally posted by cooperman:

If your going down the pit for a fragrant branch of yore try stunlocking Licia of Lindeldt off hydes tower of flame with the broken thief sword she will drop the key stone to get to harvest valley where there are two of them.

I'm trying to get to Shulva for some good loot.

[Mister Veeg]

could always just buy the cheaper ladders from Gilligan.

[Kirmukarmu]

Originally posted by azure604:

could always just buy the cheaper ladders from Gilligan.

That's thousands of extra SM from going through Huntsman's, and also a lot of souls spent on the ladder.


The point here is to create a character that is as powerful as possible with the least SM. Best way to do this is rush Rotten and then rush through Shulva to get high-end loot. I need to kill only 2 bosses to do that, Dragonrider to level up Vigor, then Rotten.

[Mister Veeg]

Originally posted by vaunumies:

Originally posted by azure604:

could always just buy the cheaper ladders from Gilligan.

That's thousands of extra SM from going through Huntsman's, and also a lot of souls spent on the ladder.


The point here is to create a character that is as powerful as possible with the least SM. Best way to do this is rush Rotten and then rush through Shulva to get high-end loot. I need to kill only 2 bosses to do that, Dragonrider to level up Vigor, then Rotten.

Going for the strongest but least SM? Probably best to wait until the patch hits and you can use the anti-SM ring.

End of the week if the announcement is to be believed.

[Kirmukarmu]

I still need souls, Agape Ring won't make the creation of the build any easier it just makes it easier to stay on your current SM once the build is complete.

I need to get to my 100-150 goal before putting on the ring, and we don't know when you even get it.

[Joker]

I like to start sprinting at the crestfallen warrior stairs, close my eyes by about the majula bonfire, count and then run-jump into the hole.

this way I made it safely.. to the bonfire in majula. :-|