Powerstance Helix Halberd and Mastadon Halberd need to be nerfed.

[otakon17]

All it is is poke,poke,poke dead. They need to increase the stamina usage for powerstance both weapons, with the broken hitboxes there is little chance of beating some cheap dastard with these things equipped running around in full Havels. You can't parry it and blocking it is practically pointless as even with a +10 Greatshield two hits and you're knocked over.

And before ANYONE says that stupid diphit saying, HOW do you counter it? Because at 110 AGL dodging doesn't work, and blocking doesn't work, and the speed of the attack will hit at the same time any of yours do plus the range is longer.

[Rhyno]

Messaggio originale di Da_Big_D:

Messaggio originale di Beel:

So your argument is that PvP isnt an integral part of the game and shouldnt be balanced around....


But if it WAS integral, then it shouldnt be balanced around, and people should just deal with the OP things running around.


Man I wouldn't want to play a game made by you. It'd have an identity crisis AND balance issues.

There was nothing OP in this game you could not play around. Well gosh the cheese tactics require you to become creative can't have that I guess nono that would be too much to ask wouldn't it.

Requiring you to play like a scumbag to beat a scumbag was creative!? Who knew?

[Igel.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opa32BZSjpo

i love my helix halberd, playing it since pc release :)

[Khan]

Messaggio originale di klaus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opa32BZSjpo

i love my helix halberd, playing it since pc release :)

Block tradeing shuts that down entirely, as their stamina drain and recovery is greater then the blockee.

Same tactic as dealing with avlens and bows. Dont roll, block and walk through it.

[Igel.]

Messaggio originale di Khan:

Block tradeing shuts that down entirely, as their stamina drain and recovery is greater then the blockee.

Same tactic as dealing with avlens and bows. Dont roll, block and walk through it.

guardbreak is my friend

[Khan]

Messaggio originale di klaus:

Messaggio originale di Khan:

Block tradeing shuts that down entirely, as their stamina drain and recovery is greater then the blockee.

Same tactic as dealing with avlens and bows. Dont roll, block and walk through it.

guardbreak is my friend

Backstep, strafe to the side, drop the block before the hit, or just roll.
At that point it is up to the user to watch out for the windup.

[Igel.]

Messaggio originale di Khan:

Messaggio originale di klaus:

guardbreak is my friend

Backstep, strafe to the side, drop the block before the hit, or just roll.
At that point it is up to the user to watch out for the windup.

on my new build i wear jesters torso so i cant be stabbed from behind, u can complain as much u want it wont help u if u face me in this game, on fightclubs im unbeatable till my summon time is over

[otakon17]

Messaggio originale di klaus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opa32BZSjpo

i love my helix halberd, playing it since pc release :)

What SKILL is there in that? What the HELL. THIS is why I hate invaders so much, nothing but a bunch of cheap griefing jackholes that use the most ludicrous weapons all to ruin your day.

The best part is, that setup is kind of crap in PvE but in PvP it's practically Godmode. Increase the stamina drain on powerstancing Halberds, that'll at least keep them from spamming it constantly.

Messaggio originale di klaus:

Messaggio originale di Khan:

Backstep, strafe to the side, drop the block before the hit, or just roll.
At that point it is up to the user to watch out for the windup.

on my new build i wear jesters torso so i cant be stabbed from behind, u can complain as much u want it wont help u if u face me in this game, on fightclubs im unbeatable till my summon time is over

Um, you CAN be backstabbed using the Jesters chest piece. It just makes you immune to critical hits, so no bonus damage.

[Khan]

Messaggio originale di klaus:

Messaggio originale di Khan:

Backstep, strafe to the side, drop the block before the hit, or just roll.
At that point it is up to the user to watch out for the windup.

on my new build i wear jesters torso so i cant be stabbed from behind, u can complain as much u want it wont help u if u face me in this game, on fightclubs im unbeatable till my summon time is over

Neat. I can count on one hand the amount of times I saw a backstab opportunity and took it, and 3 times where chuggers in light armor, and the fourth was a hex spammer.

Now for all the times I did not....well shields cant backstab or riposte.....

Are you sure you responded to the right thread? Neither of these things where brought up in this entire thread, let alone my posts.

Edit: Ah you are refering to the Helix combo.
And? Its not like the crit dmg is what kills you on a backstab, unless of course it is a dagger.

Edit 2: I am still wondering where you thought there was salt in any of my posts, or would be salt.

[Rogrog099]

Messaggio originale di klaus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opa32BZSjpo

i love my helix halberd, playing it since pc release :)

is that you on the video? u have show all your skill, 0,00.

exploiting mechanism dont credit you any skill, and everyone saw it now

your build is crap, your credit its 0

its gonna be nerfed 100%, want to see videos of you win whit casual weapons :)

PD: the skill of your oponents make it looks even worse!!!! hahahaha

you should wear full Jester cause you are a JOKE hahahaha

[Tirigon]

Messaggio originale di klaus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opa32BZSjpo

i love my helix halberd, playing it since pc release :)

Nice hack not to take any damage....

[THE THING FROM THE THING]

I fought Gou. He was a ♥♥♥♥.

Messaggio originale di harmonica:

Messaggio originale di otakon17:

Case in point, I just fought some maxed out mega mule character using Powerstanced Halberds and the invisible weapon rings. Cheap rat dastard.

Was his name Gou? I beat that guy up a lot in the arena. Pretty sure he was muling or using a modded character too. Didn't really seem to matter though because he is pretty awful once you know his gimmicks. I've also killed him at least 2 times while he was buffing, because jesus christ how bad can you possibly be.

[LordEmperorOwl]

Did some say that backstabs are possible with jesters up there? Not possible; and the critical hit nullification comes from ripostes. When're riposted or guard broken the critical damage isn't added to the riposte.

[Piszczel]

Messaggio originale di Caine:

Did some say that backstabs are possible with jesters up there? Not possible; and the critical hit nullification comes from ripostes. When're riposted or guard broken the critical damage isn't added to the riposte.

I don't think that's the case. I'm still not sure how Jester's works. I've parried and riposted people wearing Jesters plenty of times, and most of the time they take 2k+ damage and die in one hit. I don't think it does ♥♥♥♥.

[LordEmperorOwl]

Messaggio originale di piszczel1:

Messaggio originale di Caine:

Did some say that backstabs are possible with jesters up there? Not possible; and the critical hit nullification comes from ripostes. When're riposted or guard broken the critical damage isn't added to the riposte.

I don't think that's the case. I'm still not sure how Jester's works. I've parried and riposted people wearing Jesters plenty of times, and most of the time they take 2k+ damage and die in one hit. I don't think it does ♥♥♥♥.

I agree, I've never tested the damage in numbers; but backstabbing isn't possible.

[otakon17]

Messaggio originale di Realization:

Messaggio originale di Buttslamming Power Bottoms ﾟωﾟ:

Short roll into their face into a quick backstab.

Unless like every damn user of the tactic I've fought so far they're using either Jester's or Ironclad chest piece.