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Dong Quixote 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 2:07
***VENDRICK FIGHT HELP***
So I've got 2 Giant souls, plus the Giant Lord's soul... I went at him and was doing between 150-200s of damage with my halberd and the Old Whip but I died. Now I go back and try to fight him, it's acting as though I have no giant souls. I'm doing less than 60 damage... what the ♥♥♥♥ is going on?
最后由 Dong Quixote 编辑于; 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 2:16
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Cake for Mumm-Ra 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 2:32 
If you face Vendrick immediatly after the Velstadt fight he is considerably weaker. After that, he'll be stronger. You should collect 4-5 giant souls before you try to take down Vendrick.

Edit: Giant Lord Soul doesn't count.
最后由 Cake for Mumm-Ra 编辑于; 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 2:40
ChubbNutt 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 2:43 
I'm pretty sure you can't even summon anyone for that fight. They key is staying close and behind him. He only has a few attacks.
Dong Quixote 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 2:46 
I died to vendrick after velstadt ages ago, left him alone till i got the ashen mist heart
the thing is, i know the tactics. I was doing quite well till i made a stupid mistake. The help I need now is, the game is acting like his defense isn't being taken down by the giant souls in my inventory??
Cake for Mumm-Ra 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 2:48 
huh. That's weird. I know his health is reduced depending on how many giant souls you have, up to 5. Check this out though, from the wiki:

If you summon a white phantom, ran past the fog gate of Royal Aegis Velstadt (which sends the phantom back to his world) and then enter the boss area of Vendrick, you will be able to inflict normal damage on him. (I have 4 giant souls on me, after trying this I did at least double the damage. Please confirm) (CONFIRMED - was dealing 198 dam before summoning white phantom, was nearly doubled, at 388 or so afterwards)
ChubbNutt 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 2:53 
"Important: The king's defense is linked to the number of Souls of a Giant in your possession. If you have none, Vendricks' defenses are increased to 32 times the normal amount. This multiplier is halved for every Soul in possession, until his defenses are at normal levels when five Souls are possessed. It's recommended to have at least four of them before attempting to kill Vendrick.

Due to the incredible damage and range of his sword, the best way to nullify Vendrick moves is to stay really close to him, hugging his left leg and keeping him rotating leftwards. This will ensure that his vertical and horizontal swipes completely miss. Most players will not have enough health or defenses to survive more than two or even one hit from his melee attacks."

According to Wikidot.
Horse of Mass Obliteration 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 2:58 
Correct, if you fight him immediately after Velstadt he's usually killable (he was for me in NG but not in NG+ for some odd reason, can be checked by looking if he's easy to aggro with a few hits). Otherwise get 4-5 Giant Souls, 3 are from the 3 giant memories, 1 from the giants in black gulch, and 1 from the ancient dragon.
Dong Quixote 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 2:59 
grand thanks guys
ill try out the white phantom thing, and if it doesnt work ill just get more giant souls
dxmc 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 4:18 
I'm hopelessly stuck on Vendrick, and I have 5 giant souls. That whole strategy of trying to stay behind him doesn't work at all because he always flattens himself against a wall just so you can't do that. If you somehow get him away from the wall he just does this huge leap and repositions himself against the wall facing you., or he just does the leap and then one-shots you. My best weapon does around 300 damage to him, at that rate I would have to get around 40 hits on him before he gets one hit on me, it just doesn't seem possible. I don't think very many people have ever gotten through it, how can you when every one of his attacks is a one-shot deal ? It's just another really poorly designed fight where you have no choice except to go toe-to-toe with him and my character just doesn't have the stamina for that, every block drains all my stamina. I know he's optional but I'm still pretty dissapointed, I think it's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that this one fight is so difficult that it's pretty much impossible and only a tiny little fraction of players are ever going to get through it.
Horse of Mass Obliteration 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 4:33 
@dxmc: Try using havels greatshield when luring him away from the wall. his running slash attack drains almost all stamina, but with above 30 endurance he wont at least guardbreak you.
Make sure you also have a high amount of adaptability, above 100 agility will make the fight much easier, behing able to dodge all of his most dangerous attacks is way better than blocking.

Then stick behind his left leg, when he is using the heatseeking overhead slams his left leg will push you behind him allowing you to to deal damage meanwhile. If he turns and you end up at his right leg, you're in dangerzone.

With these tactics, some patience and a bit luck with his attack pattern he's a really easy fight.
Chewy102 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 4:44 
引用自 dxmc
I'm hopelessly stuck on Vendrick, and I have 5 giant souls. That whole strategy of trying to stay behind him doesn't work at all because he always flattens himself against a wall just so you can't do that. If you somehow get him away from the wall he just does this huge leap and repositions himself against the wall facing you., or he just does the leap and then one-shots you. My best weapon does around 300 damage to him, at that rate I would have to get around 40 hits on him before he gets one hit on me, it just doesn't seem possible. I don't think very many people have ever gotten through it, how can you when every one of his attacks is a one-shot deal ? It's just another really poorly designed fight where you have no choice except to go toe-to-toe with him and my character just doesn't have the stamina for that, every block drains all my stamina. I know he's optional but I'm still pretty dissapointed, I think it's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that this one fight is so difficult that it's pretty much impossible and only a tiny little fraction of players are ever going to get through it.

Use any 100% shield and it will let you tank 1 hit. Do this while staying at his back and he can't do more than one attack at a time with more than enough time for you to recover. Then once you learn to roll for his attacks you can ignore a shield and 2 hand a weapon or double up weapons for more damage.

When he gets on a wall. Back off and bait him into walking away from it. With a shield you should be albe to afford to be a "little" sloppy with rolling and not flat out die.

In all the King isn't that hard of a boss, cheap as hell with his power, but not hard once you get past the soul gimick. Plus he is mindless even for how easy it is to normally mess with AI in games. The old Dragon is MUCH worse than the King. My opinion is that the Darklurker is even worse than both of them from not being cheap but spell spammy with everything having heavy homing or AOE then doubling his attacks half way in the fight.

Everything is beatable and these are optional bosses to begin with. Plus this is a Souls game. If it wasn't a challenge then it wouldn't be a Souls game. You are suppose to learn how to beat the game and not have the game give you the win. Long way to say "get gud" but Im wordy and wanted to type.
dxmc 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 4:49 
Thanks for the tips, I'm going to try it again but this is such a long monotonous fight. He has 11,450 HP,which I think is more than any other boss in the game. I want to solo him but it's a tough one, even after beating Nashandra and a few other tough bosses. Vendrick and Velstadt have both given me a lot of trouble. Those two, the Rotten and Old Iron King have been the toughest for me, there just never seems to be any room to manouver.
最后由 dxmc 编辑于; 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 4:50
InvIctus 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 5:33 
I'll be honest, he almost made me quit the game about 2 days ago. For me, definitely the most annoying boss in the game. I fought him probably 30 times and yeah, I know what you mean. He would always end up flat against a wall and while I was trying to get behind him, he'd 1 shot me. Even if I would manage to get away, he would start throwing red crap at me then jump slam right on top of my roll from the red crap. I finally went and got the other two souls and was able to finally beat him after the 4th or 5th time with all the souls.

I know people say take your time and be patient, but the longer the fight draws out, the greater the chance that something goofy will happen. Unfortunately, this guy doesn't let you screw up at all. I beat him by being super aggressive on that left leg. I kept just enough stamina to sprint to him when he jumped back. If he got up against the wall, I'd run away and make him come to me. I think alot of it is just luck with his positioning. I beat him by keeping him in the center. If you try and fight up against the wall, it's over.

Edit*- Oh, and stay so close on the heel of that left leg, that when he does that really broad swing that turns him, his heel pushes you around too. This way you never end up in range of that swing.
最后由 InvIctus 编辑于; 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 5:36
dxmc 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 6:02 
I DID IT !!!!!! :D Wow, that was really, really time-consuming. The mistake I was making was just not getting in enough hits when I had the chance, When I got more aggressive and gave him two hits every time instead of one it finally worked. But that a was a monster tough fight, don't care what anyone says.Damn I'm a happy camper right now, I really wnated to get him and get the Kings set before NG+
InvIctus 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 8:32 
Grats!
dxmc 2014 年 7 月 11 日 下午 8:48 
Thanks !
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