Devs: Game is hard because controls suck

[Nachbars Lumpi]

I'm new to the game. DS2 is my first game in the "Souls" series.

But I don't mind a ridiculously hard difficulty level where one mistake can kill you. In fact I like those kind of games and played alot of them.

So far I also like the concept of DS2. It strongly reminds me to an old PC game I played alot years ago called "Severance: Blade of Darkness".

The only thing I really hate about DS2 are these stupid clumsy controls. This "Play-by-Wire"-style combat where a computer system decides (or guesses) what you want your character to do. Thats what makes me rage most.

Basically 50% of the games difficulty comes from the horrible controls and how they interact with (boss) fights.

I don't mind 4m huge giants swinging a 500kg heavy Mace keeping 1:1 track of your dodges like a turning machine.

But most of the times I died after my character didn't do what I wanted him to do or I couldn't look / move where I want because of the "Target Lock". But without "Target Lock" is it basically impossible to hit anything properly because your character rotates only in something like a 30° angle or so.

I understand that this behaviour comes from the console port. But guys at the Dev Studios, please understand that a PC player is used to "twitch based" controls, where your character does 1:1 what your input tells him to do. We are used to this stuff since the early ages of Wolfenstein, Doom, Morrowind, Obvlivion, ... you name it.

With a "twitch based" system there was no need for "Target Lock" for instance, because you could freely aim. And without "Target Lock" all your motions and movement would be so much more fluid and coordinated.

At the moment I'm playing a Wizard level 30 or so and I'm stuck at "The Pursuer" boss fight. And I'm really raging because I die so often due to this cumbersome abomination of a so called "input handling" this game offers you.

Please guys, DS2 could be so much more fun if you would give us a PC-worthy input handling and get rid of this "console" contamination. (I don't like Game Consoles btw)

Thanks.

[JamuThatsWho]

My controls work fine. Get a new controller.

[76561198149682778]

You're wrong.

[koumori]

git gud, i played thru the game with KB+M

[Tuxedo Clank]

Git gud, get a controller and man up. Nobody I have talked to has had a problem with KB+M or controller that wasn't a hardware issue. It isn't the game, maybe you need new hardware.

[Jill]

controls aren't hard

[Furmiel]

Originally posted by Volxx:

git gud, i played thru the game with KB+M

You think you're tough? I got to ng+6 with KB+M. IN DS 1 without changing mouse sensitivity
:<

[Nachbars Lumpi]

@Jamu: I'm playing with Keyboard and Mouse. So no need for a "new controller". But thanks for the hint mate. :)

What does "Git gud" mean? Oh wait ... "Get good". Ok. I sort that you post that kind of useless response because you feel the same and went through that same hatred. I understand you.

@Furmiel: I guess so. These "git gud" responders seem to be pretty bad ass.

[koumori]

Originally posted by Furmiel:

Originally posted by Volxx:

git gud, i played thru the game with KB+M

You think you're tough? I got to ng+6 with KB+M. IN DS 1 without changing mouse sensitivity
:<

Okay you are the true pro xD I really coudln't play DS1 with KB+M, but in DS2 it works perfectly.

[Furmiel]

Originally posted by Nachbars Lumpi:

@Jamu: I'm playing with Keyboard and Mouse. So no need for a "new controller". But thanks for the hint mate. :)

What does "Git gud" mean? Oh wait ... "Get good". Ok. I sort that you post that kind of useless response because you feel the same and went through that same hatred. I understand you.

Hello there, kind sir. I reckon this is your first trip to DS2 part of the interwebs? Let me be your guide.

[Rubenticus]

Originally posted by Furmiel:

Originally posted by Volxx:

git gud, i played thru the game with KB+M

You think you're tough? I got to ng+6 with KB+M. IN DS 1 without changing mouse sensitivity
:<

I played the game with my penus.

[Furmiel]

Why thank you, Volxx :D The worst part was against fire sage demon, camera lock-on, or using mouse to aim, I don't know what was worse.

[Jill]

Originally posted by Jesus Saves:

Originally posted by Furmiel:

You think you're tough? I got to ng+6 with KB+M. IN DS 1 without changing mouse sensitivity
:<

I played the game with my penus.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Tuxedo Clank]

Originally posted by Furmiel:

Originally posted by Nachbars Lumpi:

@Jamu: I'm playing with Keyboard and Mouse. So no need for a "new controller". But thanks for the hint mate. :)

What does "Git gud" mean? Oh wait ... "Get good". Ok. I sort that you post that kind of useless response because you feel the same and went through that same hatred. I understand you.

Hello there, kind sir. I reckon this is your first trip to DS2 part of the interwebs? Let me be your guide.

Lesson 1: If you come complaining about anything, you just aren't good enough and as such, you need to git gud.

On a more serious note, people worse than you get better without complaining. If you want to rant, go somewhere else, people here are more likely to laugh at you. If you want advice, don't complain, actually ask.

[Nachbars Lumpi]

Originally posted by Furmiel:

Hello there, kind sir. I reckon this is your first trip to DS2 part of the interwebs? Let me be your guide.

Hello! :)

Yes, thats my first trip to the "DS2 interwebs". But I'm used to such individuals from the Darkfall Online forums. But at least there they had balls to use proper language to insult you and not some sort of idiotic "Leet speak".

As I said, I really love DS2 so far. The only thing I have a problem with are the controls since I'm not used to this style of input.

[Furmiel]

Originally posted by Tuxedo Clank:

Originally posted by Furmiel:

Hello there, kind sir. I reckon this is your first trip to DS2 part of the interwebs? Let me be your guide.

Lesson 1: If you come complaining about anything, you just aren't good enough and as such, you need to git gud.

On a more serious note, people worse than you get better without complaining. If you want to rant, go somewhere else, people here are more likely to laugh at you. If you want advice, don't complain, actually ask.

Why did you cite me? I'm not complaining.