Chaos Blade

[VicVoss]

Im planning on build it with full dexterity build, but i dont know if the life loss will be an issue and ruin the blade, or maybe if it is just not worth it for de damage. Can you guys show me some light in this abyss?

[Kibbles]

You could always use the ring of restoration. Even without it, the katanas pretty damn good with pure dex.

[Foe]

i suggest to level your stats only to use the weapon, stop leveling dex (because it's bad), infuse the weapon with dark and level up int+faith to 30, buff weapon with dark weapon.

[Kibbles]

Originally posted by c3lix:

i suggest to level your stats only to use the weapon, stop leveling dex (because it's bad), infuse the weapon with dark and level up int+faith to 30, buff weapon with dark weapon.

That can be applied to literally anything.

[VicVoss]

Dex is bad?

[AllYouNeedIsKILL]

Dex scale at half the rate of strength. For example an A in dex is just a little better then a C in stregth. Of course there are some good S scaling, but for example the Drakeblood GS only get 84 damage for 40 dex with an S scaling, compare to the 140 damage that the Blacksteel Katana Sword.

But Dex weapons swings fast, and with the exception of Greatsword they are dominating the PVP scene. Most the good strength scaling weapons are heavy and slow and you have to be very skilled to use in PVP. But in PVE they are demolishing everything.

Use this calculator to see what damage you do with your stats: https://bb4f3a1a9993fc2a9dad5f73b05a48779cba04f0.googledrive.com/host/0BxQ-6N1MSsrsZTk0dWpSVU5BVFk/calculator.html

[VicVoss]

Thanks a lot! I know I always say the same but I gotta love this community!

[Foe]

Originally posted by Kesler:

Originally posted by c3lix:

i suggest to level your stats only to use the weapon, stop leveling dex (because it's bad), infuse the weapon with dark and level up int+faith to 30, buff weapon with dark weapon.

That can be applied to literally anything.

Yes i know, isn't that awesome?

[Shifty Mario]

Some dex actually have decent scaling. Chaos blade at +5 gives (dex bonus*0.8) as bonus damage. At 40 dex, I'm getting 250+112. That AR calculator above is outdated.

[Windzor]

Both Chaos Blade and Blacksteel have S rank scaling, with Blacksteel scaling slightly better (30 more AR @ 65 Dex) but Chaos Blade has 60 more base AR, higher counter-damage, range, durability, and lower weight. Even at 99 Dex, Chaos Blade will still be slightly preferable due to the higher counter-damage and range.

The self-damage was recently increased for Chaos Blade (now 50 damage per hit, was 30) so you now need the Ring of Evil Eye +1 to not lose health when one-shotting targets, or the +2 version to heal from kills.

Currently, my Blade is sitting at 250+234 AR.

Go ahead and use it, it only gets better the more health (and thus freedom of use) you get. It also has reasonable potential with RTSR in skillfull combination with its 150 Counter Damage.

The biggest downside to the sword in PvP is due to the false-hits you can get, where you'll strike a target, hear the sound-effect for a successful hit, but they dodge anyway, and you still lose health because it counts as a "Successful hit". This annoyingly builds up over extended fights and is honestly the biggest drawback.

Other notes: Ripostes / Backstabs do not cost health. You will, for some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reason, lose health for destroying environmental objects like crates and urns (not the case in DS1).

[Kishward]

I wouldn't recommend the chaos blade for PVP as you will take damage from hitting the opposing player during there iframes. If you are up against a skilled player who can roll you will do 100's of damage to yourself and zero to them. I'd recommend berserker blade or blacksteel for that purpose.

PVE it's more managable though.

[VicVoss]

Mmmm, I see, i might get that berserker blade too, and maybe use both. Where can I get it?

[𝓜𝓕𝓔𝓾𝓷𝓸𝓼]

Blacksteel Katana + RoB+2 Flynn with resin is better.

[Foe]

Originally posted by Princess Twilight Sparkle:

Blacksteel Katana + RoB+2 Flynn with resin is better.

I think when you hack, you can win as level 1 and oneshot anyone without equip, right? Princess Hacker Sparkle

[Kibbles]

Originally posted by c3lix:

Originally posted by Princess Twilight Sparkle:

Blacksteel Katana + RoB+2 Flynn with resin is better.

I think when you hack, you can win as level 1 and oneshot anyone without equip, right? Princess Hacker Sparkle

That's in the past. He's been significantly less of a ♥♥♥♥ now, let's just forget about it.

Originally posted by Noice:

Mmmm, I see, i might get that berserker blade too, and maybe use both. Where can I get it?

It's a rare drop from a red phantom that rarely spawns in the iron keep belfry while you're a bellbro. You'd probably be better off trading for it.

EDIT: I should also warn you it's not an amazing dex weapon. At max upgrade cap it only has a b in dex. I prefer the regular old uchi to it.

[VicVoss]

Originally posted by Kesler:

Originally posted by c3lix:

I think when you hack, you can win as level 1 and oneshot anyone without equip, right? Princess Hacker Sparkle

That's in the past. He's been significantly less of a ♥♥♥♥ now, let's just forget about it.

Originally posted by Noice:

Mmmm, I see, i might get that berserker blade too, and maybe use both. Where can I get it?

It's a rare drop from a red phantom that rarely spawns in the iron keep belfry while you're a bellbro. You'd probably be better off trading for it.

EDIT: I should also warn you it's not an amazing dex weapon. At max upgrade cap it only has a b in dex. I prefer the regular old uchi to it.

Oh, thats a shame. And what about the Manslayer? I saw it on a load screen, but dont know if it is a good dex weapon.