Train Sim World® 4

Train Sim World® 4

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TiredVoyager Sep 28, 2023 @ 12:50am
Lag
I'm getting quite a lot of lag. TSW 3 worked fine on my PC through game pass. TSW 4 is really laggy. What are the best settings/how do I work out the best settings?
I'll openly admit I'm very much a "newbie" when it comes to all of this
Cheers
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Grumpy Englishman Sep 28, 2023 @ 1:32am 
Post your settings for your PC it's difficult to know what settings to have if we don't know the PC specs
TiredVoyager Sep 28, 2023 @ 5:49am 
Originally posted by Grumpy Englishman:
Post your settings for your PC it's difficult to know what settings to have if we don't know the PC specs
Ah yes, would make sense!

AMD Ryzen 5 5500 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor
Kingston HyperX Fury Beast RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit
Asrock Radeon RX 6600 Dual 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
WD Blue SN570 1TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3B0C)

Like I said, complete newbie haha

Cheers
Virtual Sep 28, 2023 @ 5:54am 
There's a lot of lag and stutter the first time you play a route, but playing it again should minimize it. So if you haven't tried, try the same route a few times and see if it improves or not.
key7seven Sep 28, 2023 @ 6:23am 
On the New york to Trenton route there's more stutter by far than any other route. And it doesnt go away after he first run.
Last edited by key7seven; Sep 28, 2023 @ 7:31am
TiredVoyager Sep 28, 2023 @ 6:37am 
Yeah, I've done a few runs on the LNER and it stutters a lot. Especially if there's another train coming the other way.
TSW 3 ran great though, that's why I'm a bit stumped.
Possibly down to the game?
Grumpy Englishman Sep 28, 2023 @ 10:21pm 
Originally posted by Mattalia1:
Originally posted by Grumpy Englishman:
Post your settings for your PC it's difficult to know what settings to have if we don't know the PC specs
Ah yes, would make sense!

AMD Ryzen 5 5500 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor
Kingston HyperX Fury Beast RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit
Asrock Radeon RX 6600 Dual 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
WD Blue SN570 1TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3B0C)

Like I said, complete newbie haha

Cheers
To be honest it's not a bad set up , the game is not optimise great.

Maybe play around with the settings u should be able to get high settings running at a decent fps .

What resolution are u playing at
Grumpy Englishman Sep 28, 2023 @ 10:22pm 
Could really do with a benchmark in the game
Oz Gaming Sep 28, 2023 @ 10:51pm 
Originally posted by Mattalia1:
Yeah, I've done a few runs on the LNER and it stutters a lot. Especially if there's another train coming the other way.
TSW 3 ran great though, that's why I'm a bit stumped.
Possibly down to the game?

I have never had any stuttering in TSW4 when another train is passing from the opposite direction. Also as stated above the first time you run a route from start to finish you will get stutters as the game is building the shaders for that route. Subsequent runs on that route should be minimal.

This is a POST from DTG about the Stuttering:

Unreal Engine 4 Shader Compilation Stutter
Unfortunately, many games built on the Unreal Engine 4 suffer from shader compilation stutter including Train Sim World 4. This is most noticeable as pauses between frames, whenever something new is being rendered for the first time. This kind of stutter will occur on any PC hardware, so it cannot be eliminated with a hardware upgrade.



However, you will find that a second run of the same route will be dramatically smoother. This is because the shader is cached when it first appears. This allows the game to reuse that data, which is much faster than compiling shaders on the fly. The cache size is limited, so eventually it will be overwritten by new data. Furthermore, shaders will need to be recompiled if you update the graphics card driver or change your graphics card.



This doesn't happen on consoles because the hardware inside a console is a known quantity and the shaders can be precompiled and shipped with the game. The different combinations of hardware inside a PC is impossible to predict, so shaders have to be compiled on demand.

Last edited by Oz Gaming; Sep 28, 2023 @ 10:57pm
TiredVoyager Sep 29, 2023 @ 12:26am 
Originally posted by Grumpy Englishman:
Originally posted by Mattalia1:
Ah yes, would make sense!

AMD Ryzen 5 5500 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor
Kingston HyperX Fury Beast RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit
Asrock Radeon RX 6600 Dual 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
WD Blue SN570 1TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3B0C)

Like I said, complete newbie haha

Cheers
To be honest it's not a bad set up , the game is not optimise great.

Maybe play around with the settings u should be able to get high settings running at a decent fps .

What resolution are u playing at

Thanks, I'll have to play around. Max FPS is at 62 - I think playing around with the settings, trial and error and I'll sort it.

Like others said, will have to try a few runs
TiredVoyager Sep 29, 2023 @ 12:26am 
Originally posted by Oz Gaming:
Originally posted by Mattalia1:
Yeah, I've done a few runs on the LNER and it stutters a lot. Especially if there's another train coming the other way.
TSW 3 ran great though, that's why I'm a bit stumped.
Possibly down to the game?

I have never had any stuttering in TSW4 when another train is passing from the opposite direction. Also as stated above the first time you run a route from start to finish you will get stutters as the game is building the shaders for that route. Subsequent runs on that route should be minimal.

This is a POST from DTG about the Stuttering:

Unreal Engine 4 Shader Compilation Stutter
Unfortunately, many games built on the Unreal Engine 4 suffer from shader compilation stutter including Train Sim World 4. This is most noticeable as pauses between frames, whenever something new is being rendered for the first time. This kind of stutter will occur on any PC hardware, so it cannot be eliminated with a hardware upgrade.



However, you will find that a second run of the same route will be dramatically smoother. This is because the shader is cached when it first appears. This allows the game to reuse that data, which is much faster than compiling shaders on the fly. The cache size is limited, so eventually it will be overwritten by new data. Furthermore, shaders will need to be recompiled if you update the graphics card driver or change your graphics card.



This doesn't happen on consoles because the hardware inside a console is a known quantity and the shaders can be precompiled and shipped with the game. The different combinations of hardware inside a PC is impossible to predict, so shaders have to be compiled on demand.

Thanks, that's really insightful
Emily Sharkess 🦈 Sep 29, 2023 @ 12:48am 
New York Trenton new timetable is very laggy
Grumpy Englishman Sep 29, 2023 @ 1:15am 
Originally posted by Mattalia1:
Originally posted by Grumpy Englishman:
To be honest it's not a bad set up , the game is not optimise great.

Maybe play around with the settings u should be able to get high settings running at a decent fps .

What resolution are u playing at

Thanks, I'll have to play around. Max FPS is at 62 - I think playing around with the settings, trial and error and I'll sort it.

Like others said, will have to try a few runs
I play on high but get about 50fps on an old 1070 8gb


But as many people have said the game is not optimized very well.
Blythe Sep 29, 2023 @ 2:48am 
I find DX12 is much smoother 👍
pixel1966 Sep 29, 2023 @ 4:04am 
Originally posted by Mattalia1:
I'm getting quite a lot of lag. TSW 3 worked fine on my PC through game pass. TSW 4 is really laggy. What are the best settings/how do I work out the best settings?
I'll openly admit I'm very much a "newbie" when it comes to all of this
Cheers
Hi
start the Game in DX12 its better.
KOPOHAMUKPO6 Sep 29, 2023 @ 5:48am 
Originally posted by Oz Gaming:
Originally posted by Mattalia1:
Yeah, I've done a few runs on the LNER and it stutters a lot. Especially if there's another train coming the other way.
TSW 3 ran great though, that's why I'm a bit stumped.
Possibly down to the game?

... The cache size is limited...

Is there any way to increase the cache size?
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Date Posted: Sep 28, 2023 @ 12:50am
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