VERY high system requirements!

[Блудливый орк]

The game just has some incredibly high system requirements for game with a full graphic

I believe that the target audience of life simulators doesn't have powerful computers, and the system requirements with 16 GB of RAM are a shot in the leg. I don't really want to spend money on cloud gaming

Sims 4 can run on any bucket

I hope Paradox will find a way to lower the requirements, because this is just alpha version.

[Meadow]

I personally much rather have a good game with good graphics that I have to buy a new high-end computer for, than a game that lowers it standards just because it has to be playable on low-end computers... Of course, optimization is (always) of key importance to make the game as less demanding as possible within a given range.

[Angela]

Best way to do this for low spec PCs would be ability to make smaller map spaces (as well as much larger map sizes for anyone who can run game), seeing as this is open world with shooting at what looks to be decent graphics (by polycount) and so does require something better than a potato.

Then people with weak systems could just choose to run very small maps.

Leaving the rest of us to enjoy a nice game without compromises being forced on us.

[Meadow]

And I understand very well that The Sims 4 'can run on any bucket', because that game looks like s***. Everything in that game looks like it's made of plastic. :(

[Xautos]

EA deliberately reduced the content they wanted to create in their expac DLC's in TS4 in order so the slowest machines can keep up. that may have been the original intent, but looking at it now, it looks more like an easy excuse to do even less and get even more.

Beware of gift horses and the types of presents you receive, sometimes you must look squarely down their mouths to know exactly what is you are dealing with and that can give you an idea of what they want to offer.

I'd prefer to heavier usage of computer power if it means a whole new way of having a complete open world experience without too many issues. also keep in mind there won't be any optimisation for the most part, what you see is what you get. only towards the end of early access will paradox work on optimisation and it's possible the minimum and maximum specs could be reduced.

what you get right now is just a rough idea.

[Vanderbeam]

The system requirements really aren't that outlandish. 16GB is pretty basic, even for affordable lower-end laptops and pre-builds (which is a subjective definition, anyway); and, RAM isn't too expensive. Someone with a PC under 16GB of RAM could add a couple sticks for FAR less money than they've probably spent on The Sims.

What you should be noting is the Processor and Graphics card - this is what defines a machine as "higher end," more than the amount of RAM, in terms of specs. And the minimum recommendations are many generations old. Machines as old as 5-8 years (which is essentially elderly in the tech world) could run the game. Besides, the Sims specs are lower and the game still runs like ass on "higher end" machines so take them with a grain of salt.

In terms of demographics, not all life sim players exclusively play simulators. I'm sure there are folks who exclusively play simulators, sure; but, I think they're the minority. There are a ton of folks who play simulators to unwind or between big title drops who probably have more than enough power to run this game.

Ultimately, short of someone using a Chromebook that wasn't intended for anything more than Solitaire anyway, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find someone with a machine less than 5 years old incapable of running this game. And, unfortunately, tech these days is designed to be replaced sooner rather than later so anything over 5-years-old may as well be a paperweight even outside of gaming. No one likes it and it's extremely wasteful, but it is what it is.

[The Prime Minister of Canada]

People should keep in mind that this game looks like it's going to be basically a modern version of The Sims 3, which had an open world structure and required similarly demanding hardware to actually work properly.

[The Prime Minister of Canada]

Originally posted by Henry Draton:

Originally posted by Vanderbeam:

What you should be noting is the Processor and Graphics card - this is what defines a machine as "higher end," more than the amount of RAM, in terms of specs. And the minimum recommendations are many generations old. Machines as old as 5-8 years (which is essentially elderly in the tech world) could run the game.

The funny part is that it is even more extreme than that.

There are Intel Xeon processors from 11 and 12 years ago that can beat the minimum and recommended specs for the processors for this game. Barring a fluke like missing support for mathematical instructions the game absolutely demands, PCs with these processors will run this game. They're basically worthless now to their original owners due to all manner of problems that might be minor to a consumer but major to a business. Meltdown, Spectre, Intel ME rootkit exploits, difficult or abandoned driver support on Windows.

If you think e-waste in the consumer world is bad, then you should look at how much of it happens out there in the business setting. No one knows just how many of these machines are sitting out there unused, but judging by photos from lots sitting in warehouses there are thousands. I keep going around telling people that there is definite opportunity to get your hands on a really cheap powerful PC, but the hurdles must be too great because for every 1 PC that gets dumped on a consumer there's gotta be like 10 that get bought up by these flipping companies to resell at an "equivalent consumer price." Even worse the companies usually aren't even in the US, so a PC that might have been here originally has to get sent back with massive shipping and tax markup. Meanwhile, people are still going to be worrying that they'll have to buy an absolutely new consumer grade PC and generate more e-waste...

The cycle continues & people are none the wiser.

I was running a 2010 Dell XPS specced with a 1st gen i7 and 12 GB of DDR2 RAM until last October. It was able to run newer games fairly okayish. The only components I had to actually upgrade were the GPU. I also had to replace the original power supply and HDD, both of which failed due to age. Around last September, I bought a used 1080ti from a friend and that spurred me to do a full motherboard swap (still rocking the original XPS case ) and upgrade to a 12th gen i7 and 64GB of DDR5 RAM.

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Originally posted by The Prime Minister of Canada:

People should keep in mind that this game looks like it's going to be basically a modern version of The Sims 3, which had an open world structure and required similarly demanding hardware to actually work properly.

Do not forget about The Sims 2. There most likely will be at least some elements similar to The SIms 2 in the mix as well especially when it comes to gameplay (but no loading screens when visiting lots similar to The Sims 3) and not only just The Sims 3.

[IcedCoffee]

This game is fully open world with NO rabbit holes and you can switch households without loading screens and everything. I think it makes sense that the game has high system requirements.

[krashd]

16GB has been the norm for a half-decent PC for well over a decade, they aren't going to lower the quality of the game just for people who want to play it on an office PC.

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by Саня Тэдзука Рин:

Sims 4 can run on any bucket

The Sims 4 was literally a casual online game when it was first being developed, like the kind your mom plays on Facebook, or the kind of games you play on your phone. It was shoehorned into it's current incarnation late in development. IE: it was incredibly crippled out the gate. So yeah, it will run on any bucket.

Is that the kind of game we want? A simple bucket game? Why not just play Farmville?

However I want to offer some consolation. LbY is going to be an early access title when it releases in September. In game design, optimization is typically the last thing worked on. Optimizing too early makes it difficult to change things later on, and when a game is in active development you want to leave the code flexible, changeable, and more human-readable. This means higher requirements early on, then when things are a bit more set and things are shown to work well, they'll start really optimizing which will improve performance.

Also, these are some very early system requirements, and it's very likely that they over estimated to be safe.

Besides, you can upgrade to 16 GB of RAM for less than this game will cost.[www.amazon.com] There's really no reason to have less than 16 GB these days, even in a lower end machine.

[mirta000]

I upgraded to 32 GB RAM for Hogwarts Legacy.

Just so you know, I found The Sims 4 unplayable after City Living due to simulation lag and frequent bugs. I am yet to find a build that can smoothly lift that weight, so your frames won't lag, your sims will just freeze unable to do actions properly. I rather a game was up-front to what it takes to run it.

[Mysticalmaid]

The requirements may yet change up or down by the time the LBY releases fully, It's still fairly early development so what you see now in all aspects may or may not be in the game or different by full release. Which could be 1 or 2 or more years from now.

[KayMarieRose]

At some point you need to graduate from using a potato PC. Games should not lower their standards because you can't save up money for a basic gaming computer to play modern titles on.

[Xautos]

my only issue is my CPU at this stage, the rest is fine. but if i want a faster CPU i need to upgrade away from the LGA1500 socket and make use of the new CPU's on the market and that means a new MoBo with DDR5 slots and that means DDR5 ram equal to the 32gb i have.

I'm not gonna attempt any such upgrade until i know a lot more. otherwise if i play the game with the setup i have now and run at maximum without issue i'll have saved myself over £800 on upgrades. But if it don't work? then fair enough, my pc is almost a decade behind the times with exception to the graphics card which is a rtx 3060 ti, the rest needs replacing.

10 years in computer terms is the difference between modern and stone age in tech, it depreciates very quickly.