Abandoned City Non-lethal and Undetected HELP!!!!

[Motor]

Title says it all. Is there a single person in this community who has either or both challenges completed from this mission. I know the same thing goes for Smuggler's Compound, but I would also like to confirm that it IS possible to get both challenges for that mission as I have done so myself. So any thoughts?

[mr_hotwire]

try to goggle it?

[Motor]

You have no idea... ><

[Kahlarina]

i had full ghost and panther ratings in all missions, so it is pssible. and i wasn't detected and didn't kill anyone. that includes the ppl you can spare in cinematics.

[mr_hotwire]

i have cleared whole game

Originally posted by MotorBoater:

Title says it all. Is there a single person in this community who has either or both challenges completed from this mission. I know the same thing goes for Smuggler's Compound, but I would also like to confirm that it IS possible to get both challenges for that mission as I have done so myself. So any thoughts?

[Motor]

Mr_hotwire good for you...but you didn't even bother answering my question.

[Motor]

Originally posted by bennutschi:

i had full ghost and panther ratings in all missions, so it is pssible. and i wasn't detected and didn't kill anyone. that includes the ppl you can spare in cinematics.

Ok, you obviously misunderstood me. I meant the challenge, not the playstyle walkthrough.

[mr.stevens]

This damn mission, oh boy. Tried it twice so far, on first try we wanted to get both undetected and non-lethal but I think we killed some enemies before we actually could have done that in the last portion of the mission where you defend from waves of enemies on the roof. On second try we decided to try panther style so non-lethal bonus was out of the way but still we didn't get undetected bonus. I think it has something to do with the enemies that spawn outside on the roof right after picking up the comatose guy in the lab.

[Motor]

Originally posted by mr.stevens:

This damn mission, oh boy. Tried it twice so far, on first try we wanted to get both undetected and non-lethal but I think we killed some enemies before we actually could have done that in the last portion of the mission where you defend from waves of enemies on the roof. On second try we decided to try panther style so non-lethal bonus was out of the way but still we didn't get undetected bonus. I think it has something to do with the enemies that spawn outside on the roof right after picking up the comatose guy in the lab.

You're quite right, mate. Smuggler's Compound, although very troublesome, IS POSSIBLE to get undetected and non-lethal, as long as the drone operator eliminates all enemies quickly while the grounded player has to remain out of sight (ANY red detection marker should be avoided, doesn't matter if full or not).

But Abandoned City is just impossible. I've tried it co-op more than 10 times I think, but there's just no way to do it. Me and my partner even managed to clear the extraction area without being detected (with sleep gas and stun mines) until the custscene played.

Though, as I'm writing this, I wonder if, once you and you're partner enter the scripted cutscene, it's possible to kill ALL enemies, before their red meters even start to appear. That seems to be what worked for Smuggler's Compound.

[mr.stevens]

In the last section of Abandoned City me and my friend managed to kill a few guards before they spotted us and we got panther points because we used silenced rifles, I wonder if that's the real reason that possibly can award undetected bonus. I suppose it's somewhat possible to eliminate all enemies on the rooftop when Sam and Briggs can't move and are forced to kill all reinforcements and get panther points only.

[Przetrosz]

Did you find a way eventually?

[R1p0]

Originally posted by Motor:

Title says it all. Is there a single person in this community who has either or both challenges completed from this mission. I know the same thing goes for Smuggler's Compound, but I would also like to confirm that it IS possible to get both challenges for that mission as I have done so myself. So any thoughts?

Tried to search on the net, could not find it. It seems when you go outside the roof, it's insta detection even by the sound you can say so...and when it comes to non lethal it's impossible even if your mate kill them all...

[GHRamsEy]

Non-lethal is nearly impossible in the coop missions b/c of the buggy nature of sleeping gas and/or stun gun. 4x in 6 the gas cloud will simply have no effect and you get "HE's THERE!" and it's a ♥♥♥♥ show. And the stun thing shoots off line more times than I can count with same results.

The roof top ending is extremely buggy. I've played w/ three different people; two from the US one from India. The ending result in several attempts was we got stuck. Soft locked.

The drones endlessly attacking us and we died unable to move.
Or we killed the drones and human enemies but the mission never ended. We even waited 10-15m. Very deflating after what was by then probably an hour of play.
But we were soft locked. After several hours it was massive letdown.
This was the result on more than 2 occasions.

IDK if it's the internet connection or just how it's supposed to work, but on some occasions
I could move enough to shoot more and on others I was wholly immobile and once the drones began one or both of us just died endlessly and finally gave up.

The Briggs coop missions are novice-professional only.
Don't even think about perfectionist. HA! Tried that w/ my friend from India exactly
once at his request. We did fine until the roof. The drones were more endless and
only 2 hits and one or both of us were killed. It was a ♥♥♥♥ show of permadeath.
Especially since you get no ammo reloads on perfectionist.