Original War

Original War

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oddbolt Mar 7, 2018 @ 6:56pm
OWar 2 When?
Now please.
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Sticky Wicket Mar 7, 2018 @ 8:55pm 
Would be great. Especially if it were done by the same dev team.

Still one of my fave games ever.

I wonder if the Original War developers could be petitioned/bribed etc to make it....? :)
Last edited by Sticky Wicket; Mar 7, 2018 @ 9:29pm
Never.
oddbolt Mar 8, 2018 @ 11:26am 
Currently Bohemia Interactive owns the rights to it. :baby:
Originally posted by Just Like Heaven:
Would be great. Especially if it were done by the same dev team.

Still one of my fave games ever.

I wonder if the Original War developers could be petitioned/bribed etc to make it....? :)
You can't force anyone to do anything... Original team is already torn into pieces btw.
Curthbert Mar 20, 2018 @ 2:13am 
I am waiting for original war 2 since I bought the game in 2000. So almost 20 years and still no luck. Maybe crowdfunding which would get money for OW rights and game development..
Zizo Mar 22, 2018 @ 12:37pm 
Actually crowdfunding is the only option, but there is ONE necessary step: a group of mostly old-new developers enthusiastic for the idea enough to do go for it. But most probably not..yet..never is too strong word, no one knows ;)
Last edited by Zizo; Mar 22, 2018 @ 12:37pm
Never is actually accurate word.
Stucuk Mar 22, 2018 @ 8:59pm 
Why would you want to buy the rights to OW? Simplest method is the Supreme Commander way. Chris Taylor who was the guy behind Total Annihilation never had the rights to Total Annihilation, so he just made a game which was basically Total Annihilation but with a slightly different story.

The main reason why the community won't make a Spiritual Successor to OW is simply because it takes alot of time. Most people also don't have all of the required skills to make an entire game (Even if they used a 3rd party engine like Unity). To make a true successor to OW it would require modifying an existing engine alot to get all of the features. Without all of OW's unique features it wouldn't be a successor to OW.


Simplest Solution is just to make a mod for OW which continues the story. Story is the real thing people want.
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Celo Apr 16, 2018 @ 4:07am 
Originally posted by House:
Simplest Solution is just to make a mod for OW which continues the story. Story is the real thing people want.

Yes, story is important, but I wouldn't mind changing some things. F.E. these days it would make sense they would use drones for scouting the terrain.

But what I personally am craving mostly is any rts game where you can build base but cannot magically increase the amount of your troops.
Stucuk Apr 16, 2018 @ 5:09am 
Originally posted by Celo:
these days it would make sense they would use drones for scouting the terrain.

By the looks of it they just sent generic parts to the past. Americans anyway would have no need for any scouting drones/etc as from their perspective they are the only ones going back in time.

Arabians were just mercs with the goal to stop the Americans and destroy Siberite (Because the Oil Price would fall if Siberite was used), so they likely would only have the basic stuff that they were wearing/carrying.

The Arabians were the ones who accidentally sent the EON back in time while they were trying to increase its capacity. This lead to the alternate future where the americans succeed in moving Siberite to Alaska. As a result the Americans had an ample supply of Siberite which they used. Russians as a result couldn't stand upto America, their economy would be ruined, etc. But they did find the EON and have enough siberite to travel back in time to stop the Americans.

Russians accidentally destroyed the EON.

One of the design documents has the basic story:
http://owsupport.com/files/public/OW-Background.rtf

You could argue that they may have made drones in the past with the resources sent back, but if the components were not small you wouldn't be able to make tiny drone parts. You could also argue that they have drones, just drone vehicles (Computer Controlled).
Celo Apr 16, 2018 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by House:
Originally posted by Celo:
these days it would make sense they would use drones for scouting the terrain.

Americans anyway would have no need for any scouting drones/etc as from their perspective they are the only ones going back in time.

It kinda make sense, arial photography is way better, faster and cheaper than mapping the land by food or with tank, and, I would say, they needed to extract and move the siberite with the original plan, so they needed basic cartography for finding the best route.

Also, I wouldnt stick so much to that point, they actually have means to create mass murdering weapons, if there were no Russians, why would they have it packed in the crates?
- usually I think of it as if they are just using all faction crates and Russians indeed packed those weapons.

Thank you for that document BTW.

Stucuk Apr 16, 2018 @ 5:37am 
Originally posted by Celo:
Also, I wouldnt stick so much to that point, they actually have means to create mass murdering weapons, if there were no Russians, why would they have it packed in the crates?
- usually I think of it as if they are just using all faction crates and Russians indeed packed those weapons.

Well they would at least have had machine guns/etc due to the local animals/etc. Like them saber tooth cat things. When it comes to vehicles with guns/etc they would have just used the raw materials from the crates and modify them. After all your scientists keep inventing new stuff.

You also have to remember that by the time macmillan reaches the past, either 1 or 2 years have already passed since the first person arrived. So they have had some time to make stuff and have already ran into the russians.
Sticky Wicket Apr 17, 2018 @ 5:25pm 
Originally posted by Celo:
Originally posted by House:
Simplest Solution is just to make a mod for OW which continues the story. Story is the real thing people want.

Yes, story is important, but I wouldn't mind changing some things. F.E. these days it would make sense they would use drones for scouting the terrain.

But what I personally am craving mostly is any rts game where you can build base but cannot magically increase the amount of your troops.

The story of original war is a very compelling aspect of it. (Very Original :P ) and it would be so great to see a sequel for it. No other game does quite what OW did, and there is a definite *gap* that needs to be filled as it were. It is not my intention to *dis* the work done by modders, but I have tried a few of them and they simply don't capture the same compelling atmosphere as the base game.

One thing I always though was missing was the use of air vehicles/gadgets such as drones and maybe some light helicopters. If radar and and other more exotic types of temporal tech is possible to develop, then making some air-based stuff is entirely reasonable.

Yeah, the C&C type of grab rescources and churn out troops to endlessly throw against enemies is a bit tiresome and vastly inferior compared to the true tactical aspect of OW. It would be good to see another game that did that. (the upcoming Battletech might do something to fill that gap..?).

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In short: If an OW 2 was made (and had the same kind of original aspect) I would buy it in an instant! :)
Last edited by Sticky Wicket; Apr 17, 2018 @ 5:30pm
oddbolt Apr 18, 2018 @ 9:46am 
Another of the big things that makes OWar so great for me is all the voiced characters. They quite easily could have done what other games do and just left it as text only but I really think that would have taken away from the game massively.

With the exception of John MacMillan and Burlak, occasionally some other mission specific characters, permadeath is a very real threat too. I love that you get rewarded for keeping certain characters alive by getting to hear unique dialogue and interactions that you wouldn't get normally. I felt so connected to Cyrus Parker and Bobby Brandon by the end of the game just because they'd been around so long.

If there is a sequel I'd love to see it kept as close to the Original with all of those things as possible, including the graphics. Just 2018 tech versions of it, something along the lines of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IbHeFaOpJw or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5FT6S1WhpM
Sticky Wicket Apr 18, 2018 @ 12:07pm 
Yep totally agree Oddbolt. The voice-overs (and the characters) made the game feel very special. The video-diary/cutscenes of John Macmillan give me gorgeous shivers every time; they are so well done and 100% spot-on with the games atmosphere.

I had a particular love for the characters of Frank, Tim, Joan and Lucy, (in addition to John and Burlak) and it was great to help them advance through the campaign and make it to the end in one piece. The playful banter of Frank in particlar was always a treat....he had some cracking *one-liners*.
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