Kuroinu on Steam

[Amurikun]

Nice seems to be only the first part for now but am looking forward to the rest making it's way on steam.

[RhySin]

I'm surprised steam are even allowing it
Not that i'm complaining ;)
Also this is the Redux which includes everything from the re-release so it's everything before and more.

[deathcont]

I am also surprised that they are allowing it on steam. I'm going to assume a lot of content is going to be behind a patch.

[Stycfy]

I'd guess this actually includes all and additional scenes. Did a digging and found there's already a "redux" vers. of Kuroinu (at DMM) so that's most likely what Shiravune is gonna localize.

[Soundchaser]

2 hours of story, so there will no h sceneces at all?

[Final Vent Card]

Originally posted by Stargazer:

2 hours of story, so there will no h sceneces at all?

Remember: this is the Steam port, so all of the sex is likely going to be censored out with a patch made available someplace else to unlock it all. It's how a lot of other eroge handle their H-content on Steam.

[Shadow Sword]

Originally posted by Stargazer:

2 hours of story, so there will no h sceneces at all?

The patch is on the publisher's website.

[sabeerareeb™]

honestly rance should do the same and bring em all to steam

[Afrikano]

How'd this make it on steam but not rance lol? Probably because they'd have to cut so much in rance that the story would make no sense.

[Hentaika]

Originally posted by Afrikano:

How'd this make it on steam but not rance lol? Probably because they'd have to cut so much in rance that the story would make no sense.

Too easy to get blocked on steam, so pointless to try most of the time for big series. You never know when your game will be blocked.

Take the much milder Evenicle series for example - 1st one made it to steam(ironically the darker of the 2) but 2nd got banned.

And once your game gets banned once - it has no future on steam since no matter how hard you are willing to further censore it - valve will not give it as much as a second glance.
The moment your game is banned once - it's banned forever, no matter what you do.

Generally the adult content is a very touchy subject mostly because of 'activists' against such content which report it to bank services who then have to warn said platform to remove the content, otherwise the service will stop working with you.

In general on the 'legal' side it's easier to just avoid the adult content entirely. Sure, you lose a tiny bit potential profit but you also lose a lot of headache accompanied with it.

The only really safe option for adult content on steam is to sell you 'pretty much nothing' and then you download the patch which adds the entire game elsewhere.

This seems to be how Kuroinu Redux made it - they sell you pretty much nothing(2 hours of content, which is pretty much not even a quarter of game) and you have to get majority of the game elsewhere.

[alexr]

How the hell do you make an all-ages version of freaking Kuroinu!? It's a dark fantasy eroge where the main protagonist is a rapist and murderer who takes over the country and forces all the women into prostitution. Every scene that isn't the main females getting sexually assaulted is the characters talking about the girls getting sexually assaulted. Seriously, that's the entire game. And then there's the ridiculous fetish gear the women all wear that's supposed to be just normal clothing for them...

[Hentaika]

Originally posted by alexr:

How the hell do you make an all-ages version of freaking Kuroinu!? It's a dark fantasy eroge where the main protagonist is a rapist and murderer who takes over the country and forces all the women into prostitution. Every scene that isn't the main females getting sexually assaulted is the characters talking about the girls getting sexually assaulted. Seriously, that's the entire game. And then there's the ridiculous fetish gear the women all wear that's supposed to be just normal clothing for them...

There are very concrete things that are 'no go'.
Albeit it's always a bit of a gamble.

But I explained how in the post above you - by removing majority of content.

Kuroinu seems to have removed almost everything based on their 2 hour declaration, so I assume what you get on steam is a quick summary of invasion and short introductions to characters.

Probably assumes average read speed where you are trying to carefully read rather than skim through. In which case it's probably estimable at ~1-1.5 hours if you are not focusing on details.

The main problem with H GAMES like Rance is that they have gameplay.
So they NEED to give you a full 'game' if they sell it. And it's much harder to edit story when gameplay is involved in it.

Kuroinu is however pure VN. They can cut everything, call it a 2 hour VN, sell it for 60$ and it will be legit.

I would hardly call most clothing in Kuroinu 'fetish gear'. Sexy clothes? Somewhat. But nothing you can't see in some of the older non H games.

2 hours is exactly the time for simply describing the invasions and introducing the participants of war while omitting most of the graphical rape part of it.

[alexr]

Yeah, but even then I'd hastate to call it an "all-ages" game. Like, those two hours are still chock-full of rape and murder, it's just that it's happening off-screen, or about to happen or just happened, and they're reacting to it. Gutting 90 percent of the game might make it more palatable, but only just.

Also, "somewhat sexy?" The Merc's outfit is at least somewhat practical, I grant you, but then we get the halfling Loli, who's idea of a shirt and pants is a single pastie over her crotch and nothing else. The "pure, chaste" elf goddess dresses in strips of semi-transparent cloth, and her idea of underwear is a loose-hanging leather strap. I understand fantasy has long had girls in combat bikinis, but frankly bikinis cover way more then what some of these girls wear.

[Hentaika]

Originally posted by alexr:

Yeah, but even then I'd hastate to call it an "all-ages" game. Like, those two hours are still chock-full of rape and murder, it's just that it's happening off-screen, or about to happen or just happened, and they're reacting to it. Gutting 90 percent of the game might make it more palatable, but only just.

Also, "somewhat sexy?" The Merc's outfit is at least somewhat practical, I grant you, but then we get the halfling Loli, who's idea of a shirt and pants is a single pastie over her crotch and nothing else. The "pure, chaste" elf goddess dresses in strips of semi-transparent cloth, and her idea of underwear is a loose-hanging leather strap. I understand fantasy has long had girls in combat bikinis, but frankly bikinis cover way more then what some of these girls wear.

Offscreen in some call of duty games countless rapes and millions of murders happen.
Almost any shooter game revolves around millions if not billions of deaths too.

Does it prevent them from being sold on steam? Not really.

The only limitations are mostly graphical, in terms of text a lot of things can get a 'pass' presuming a sufficient age rating.

Other than that it's honestly whatever.
Valve in general has very weird way to filter games, especially with their policy to never give games a 2nd chance.

As for outfits I wouldn't call them anything more than 'sexy' and would hardly call them something special, majority are something you can see even in non H media. Ecchi at worst.

[alexr]

...And then there's the ones who wear literally nothing and treat it like it's normal. No, I call that fetish wear.

[sabeerareeb™]

Originally posted by alexr:

Yeah, but even then I'd hastate to call it an "all-ages" game. Like, those two hours are still chock-full of rape and murder, it's just that it's happening off-screen, or about to happen or just happened, and they're reacting to it. Gutting 90 percent of the game might make it more palatable, but only just.

Also, "somewhat sexy?" The Merc's outfit is at least somewhat practical, I grant you, but then we get the halfling Loli, who's idea of a shirt and pants is a single pastie over her crotch and nothing else. The "pure, chaste" elf goddess dresses in strips of semi-transparent cloth, and her idea of underwear is a loose-hanging leather strap. I understand fantasy has long had girls in combat bikinis, but frankly bikinis cover way more then what some of these girls wear.

google dragon age and see its armors