DocWagon Kits are USELESS

[Kamiyama]

Here I thought I was special being a Kickstarter backer and getting free docwagon service. The kits do nothing. ****ing NOTHING!

I die with one in my inventory, and that's it. If one of my runners die, that's it. They don't activate automatically, you don't get a chance to use them, they just sit there and take up inventory space and do nothing.

This is BS. This is my backer reward? Seriously!?

[SlayMan]

yeah they suck, you need to use one on a downed character, but it has to be used by an alive character on the dead guy. Best part: equip your team with them, and you will lose them once the run is done.
That is really retarded

[DarkCarnage]

well someone got to use the kit on the dieing perosn just like real life lol. i only used one start to finish, poor dwarf shammy tooka shotgun to teh face 00

[SUPERMCNUGGET]

It's a DocWagon KIT, not a DocWagon bracelet that's contracted to DocWagon themselves who come in kicking the door down with a bunch of guys with guns and spells and pulls you out of the mission. It's meant to be a portable off the market field version that can somewhat replicate the service to a different extent.

The only issue i have with DocWagon kits is that they can't be used on the main character. If your main character dies you can't even get resurrected by another runner with said kit.

[›Kolanaki]

What the in the 6th World made you think they would activate automatically upon dying? I know there's magic in the world, but DocWagon kits are tech, not fairies from Hyrule.

[Kamiyama]

From what I understood from way back in the beginning when the Kickstarter was still active, was that the DocWagon service sent armed medics to heal your team-mates if they died in battle.

Okay, so maybe they can't actually program or animate an armed combat medic to come and save your team. At the least it should be an inventory item that revives your team automatically!

If you have to manually use it, you are treating it like a medkit. DocWagon was NEVER advertised as a stinking medkit! Not once. I'm pissed.

[DarkCarnage]

Originally posted by Kamiyama:

From what I understood from way back in the beginning when the Kickstarter was still active, was that the DocWagon service sent armed medics to heal your team-mates if they died in battle.

Okay, so maybe they can't actually program or animate an armed combat medic to come and save your team. At the least it should be an inventory item that revives your team automatically!

If you have to manually use it, you are treating it like a medkit. DocWagon was NEVER advertised as a stinking medkit! Not once. I'm pissed.

that eba Docwagon Contract and boi monitor/bracelet. waht we got in game a doc wagon Trama kit.

[›Kolanaki]

Originally posted by Kamiyama:

From what I understood from way back in the beginning when the Kickstarter was still active, was that the DocWagon service sent armed medics to heal your team-mates if they died in battle.

Okay, so maybe they can't actually program or animate an armed combat medic to come and save your team. At the least it should be an inventory item that revives your team automatically!

If you have to manually use it, you are treating it like a medkit. DocWagon was NEVER advertised as a stinking medkit! Not once. I'm pissed.

Maybe you misunderstood? That's the way a DocWagon works in the PnP game; it calls an ambulence, charges some nuyen, but they won't come to an area that's too dangerous.

Although, I think you are right. I vaguely remember seeing them talk about that in one of the pre-launch trailers.

[SUPERMCNUGGET]

Originally posted by Kamiyama:

From what I understood from way back in the beginning when the Kickstarter was still active, was that the DocWagon service sent armed medics to heal your team-mates if they died in battle.

Okay, so maybe they can't actually program or animate an armed combat medic to come and save your team. At the least it should be an inventory item that revives your team automatically!

If you have to manually use it, you are treating it like a medkit. DocWagon was NEVER advertised as a stinking medkit! Not once. I'm pissed.

I can understand your frustration in this regard but DocWagon doesn't revive people in the field, they extract them, stabilize them and get them to a hospital ASAP. Imagine a DocWagon team taking your only Decker out of the mission where his Decking skills was needed to complete the mission and then you would be forced to abort the run or restart the mission anyway. At least in this regard in a video game format you can still keep doing the mission and complete it without doing the entire thing again.

[Fairlight]

The confusion seems to be because people are remembering the old Docwagon from the Sega version of the game, where a team of armed guards would kick down the door and rescue your sorry self. In this game is basically just a phoenix down.

[Kamiyama]

Originally posted by › The Cool Side of the Pillow:

Originally posted by Kamiyama:

From what I understood from way back in the beginning when the Kickstarter was still active, was that the DocWagon service sent armed medics to heal your team-mates if they died in battle.

Okay, so maybe they can't actually program or animate an armed combat medic to come and save your team. At the least it should be an inventory item that revives your team automatically!

If you have to manually use it, you are treating it like a medkit. DocWagon was NEVER advertised as a stinking medkit! Not once. I'm pissed.

Maybe you misunderstood? That's the way a DocWagon works in the PnP game; it calls an ambulence, charges some nuyen, but they won't come to an area that's too dangerous.

Yes that's exactly what they said from the beginning. By "too dangerous" I was assuming the rare boss fight, or end-game dungeon or something like that.

[katarack21]

Originally posted by SlayMan:

yeah they suck, you need to use one on a downed character, but it has to be used by an alive character on the dead guy.

So what your saying is it's exactly like every single ressurection item in every RPG that's ever bene used for the last 25 years, up until two or three years ago.

That's so terrible. How can you deal with such useless trash?

[SUPERMCNUGGET]

I thought in PnP Platinum DocWagon contracts would always attempt to extract you no matter how dangerous. Like the difference between Gold and Platinum was like Gold being "We'll take on anything but a Dragon" and Platinum being "If there's a Dragon we'll bring bigger guns"

[DarkCarnage]

Originally posted by SUPERMCNUGGET:

I thought in PnP Platinum DocWagon contracts would always attempt to extract you no matter how dangerous. Like the difference between Gold and Platinum was like Gold being "We'll take on anything but a Dragon" and Platinum being "If there's a Dragon we'll bring bigger guns"

well fi you got a contract it also depends on your member ship lvl, basic, silve,r gold, platuim, etc. the higher end ones they enter alot fo locations(but rarely corp spaces) to revive you and you pay for any of the DocW poeple deaths lol.

[Kamiyama]

Originally posted by katarack21:

Originally posted by SlayMan:

yeah they suck, you need to use one on a downed character, but it has to be used by an alive character on the dead guy.

So what your saying is it's exactly like every single ressurection item in every RPG that's ever bene used for the last 25 years, up until two or three years ago.

That's so terrible. How can you deal with such useless trash?

Well I just lost a fight where an important story NPC died and it didn't give me any time to use my DocWagon Kit at all. She died and I just outright failed.

[›Kolanaki]

Originally posted by katarack21:

Originally posted by SlayMan:

yeah they suck, you need to use one on a downed character, but it has to be used by an alive character on the dead guy.

So what your saying is it's exactly like every single ressurection item in every RPG that's ever bene used for the last 25 years, up until two or three years ago.

Earth Bound.

If a character with the revival items dies in that game, you can still take the item from their body, give it to a living party member, and revive the fallen one.

:P

Or any Final Fantasy where your inventory is a shared pool. No one character holds the item. Or even D&D lets you rummage around in a dead party member's gear for a Rod of Ressurection they might have had.