Cyberware removal?

[Bismar7]

In the UI its possible to sell just about everything; but under the cyberware I cannot find a way to uninstall it; is it possible to replace or uninstall cyberware?

And if so, how?

[Fetrik Snubbe]

You can upgrade it. Not remove it.

[Bismar7]

So If you install Cyberware it is permanent? You cannot replace it with something else or remove it to gain the essence back??

That seems a bit flawed if its the case. Anyone have any success removing or replacing Cyberware?

[katarack21]

The UI warns you about that when you go into the cyberware screen.

[JayArcher]

You can replace parts with alphaware and betaware versions that are better and in some cases use less essence, but replacing your flesh with bits of machines steals a part of your soul you can never get back.

[Karmadive]

yep once you chop off your arm or cut out your eye and put in a cybernetic replacement you can't go back.

[Sentinel 08295]

Originally posted by bismar7:

So If you install Cyberware it is permanent? You cannot replace it with something else or remove it to gain the essence back??

That seems a bit flawed if its the case. Anyone have any success removing or replacing Cyberware?

Try reading the big red warning in the help section/UI before complaining next time.

[Cat]

How do you know if something is an upgrade or not? Maybe I'm too early on, but I'm still using the first cyber eye for example. +3% hit.

[Poor Dick]

Originally posted by bismar7:

So If you install Cyberware it is permanent? You cannot replace it with something else or remove it to gain the essence back??

That seems a bit flawed if its the case. Anyone have any success removing or replacing Cyberware?

True to the P'n'P RPG, you don't get your essence back. Ever. You trade your soul for material power and, once traded, well...

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by bismar7:

So If you install Cyberware it is permanent? You cannot replace it with something else or remove it to gain the essence back??

That seems a bit flawed if its the case. Anyone have any success removing or replacing Cyberware?

No that is not flawed, that is how this universe works. You only have 1 Soul, the unit of spirit and body is reflected by what people call Essence. If you misthreat your body (substance abuse, chopping off parts of your body or putting in artificial components) you weaken the connection between spirit and body (reduce your essence).

If your essence drops to 0 you are dead. You could turn into a cyberzombie.. if you find enough powerful mages to forcibily bind your soul to your body. Then you can turn Essence negative.. which poisons the spirit world around you.

[Citronvand]

I wish I could be a cyberzombie then but I don't think this game/campaign allows that. Huge fan of Syndicate & Syndicate Wars :)

[Sonneillon]

Originally posted by bismar7:

So If you install Cyberware it is permanent? You cannot replace it with something else or remove it to gain the essence back??

That seems a bit flawed if its the case. Anyone have any success removing or replacing Cyberware?

So your saying you should be able to cut your arm off, install a metal arm and then a few days later when you don't like it put your old arm back on like nothing happened? Sorry the game doesn't work that way.

Also the game warns you about that so unless you can't read you have no excuses for not knowing you can't remove the cyberware.

[Goober Peas]

Yeah cyberware, and with the new 5th edition of the PnP game, bioware, are permanent.

It's the sort of whole "man/machine" dichotomy. At what point do you cease being a human (or metahuman in this case) and start being nothing but a machine. Similar stuff going on in most cyberpunk stories. Think all three Deus Ex games and the philosophical stuff about what makes a human a human.

[›Kolanaki]

Originally posted by Blackburne:

yep once you chop off your arm or cut out your eye and put in a cybernetic replacement you can't go back.

You could if it was based on 4th edition rules, but this is set in the 3rd edition era when bioengineering wasn't around (or at least commercially viable). :P

[Citronvand]

Where do you get the cyberwares anyway? I want to pimp up my troll as much as I can.

[Bisky]

Originally posted by Sonneillon:

Originally posted by bismar7:

So If you install Cyberware it is permanent? You cannot replace it with something else or remove it to gain the essence back??

That seems a bit flawed if its the case. Anyone have any success removing or replacing Cyberware?

So your saying you should be able to cut your arm off, install a metal arm and then a few days later when you don't like it put your old arm back on like nothing happened? Sorry the game doesn't work that way.

Also the game warns you about that so unless you can't read you have no excuses for not knowing you can't remove the cyberware.

I've done a pretty good job of reading everything and I also managed to overlook this fact. There should at least be a static warning right on the cyberware install interface.