Did they ever re-release, or make a pc version of the Sega Shadowrun game?

[wulfster42]

Of the two, the sega version was by far my favorite. I gave away my nintendo and games to some kids along time ago, but I kept my sega system and a few games (including shadowrun of course). Before I go rooting through all my old game systems to set it back up (and find all the power cords etc) I thought I would check in and see if they possibly released the game on another system (They have tons of sega games on the playstation network for instance..so it's possible).

I know there are emulators etc, but I believe those are illegal...and I don't want to get involved with piracy etc. I'm looking for a legit way to re-get the game...without having to play it on my old system. Preferably on my PC...but it could be on my xbox360 or ps3, Wii etc.

Figured it would be fun to replay the old one while I wait for the new one to be released:)

[wulfster42]

Ah, thanks. I did not know it was legal to use those emulators. I'll look up one then and be playing it on my PC tonight...woot:)

I havn't hooked up the system in years (maybe like 5). I used to replay the sega shadowrun every few years (along with all the old might and magics..and Diablo II)...but in the last 5 or so years I've been so backlogged with games (party due to steam!!) that I have not gone back and played them.

But I just can't resist doing so in prep for this game:)

Thanks again!!

[[E] Caladus]

Originally posted by Evilpenguin:

emulating games is perfectly legal for vaporware like the SNES and Genesis shadowrun games. The companies that made them don't exist anymore, and no one has the license for those. Otherwise, no, they've never ported the sega Shadowrun to PC.

I'm not going to bore you with the specific DMCA regulations (you can look them up yourself if you really want to) but suffice to say they're almost always illegal. Emulators aren't because they don't violate any law, ROMs violate copyright laws. So while it doesn't make sense to use emulators without ROMs, it is legal. Just like it is legal to have an empty beer bottle if you're under 16 but not have alcohol.

There is no 24/48 hour exemption. Linking to copyrighted content, hosting it and downloading it is always illegal.

You can get in trouble for downloading ROMs of games no longer sold as well, and hosting illegal content is illegal too.

Nintendo explains it pretty well on their legal page.

Copyrights last for 75 years so all video games are still protected until later this century.

[Tiojion]

You can get in trouble in theory but if the company doesn't exist any more there shouldn't be a complaintant to pursue you.

[[E] Caladus]

Originally posted by Tio:

You can get in trouble in theory but if the company doesn't exist any more there shouldn't be a complaintant to pursue you.

Sure there is. The companies that are releasing said older games (classic game packs) can most certainly pursue an infringer.

Not saying anyone will ever get caught. I'm saying it is illegal. And clearly so.

[LaGK1LL]

The Genesis version was my favorite too. The music, art style, and controls were perfect. And the Matrix was so fun to mess around in. I hope the Matrix in this version is good. Either way, I'm glad they brought this game back. My favorite game of all time.

[nirth]

Originally posted by Evilpenguin:

emulating games is perfectly legal for vaporware like the SNES and Genesis shadowrun games. The companies that made them don't exist anymore, and no one has the license for those. Otherwise, no, they've never ported the sega Shadowrun to PC.

This is a pet peeve of mine so my apologies in advance! :)

Vaporware is a term for products that never see the light of day after being announced. Basically, it's for those games that get hyped up and then simply disappear without any announcement to that effect. They vanish.. like vanpor.

I think you are looking for something like games that are no longer supported.

There is also the term "abandonware" but this is usually reserved for products from companies that are still operating that are no longer supported or never were supported without official acknowledgement of that discontinued support.

[wulfster42]

Hmm, well, I wish they wo uld re-release some of these old games, especially on IPAD. It would RULE to be able to play the Sega Shadowrun on my Ipad for instance. I probably would never delete it from there.

If I really enjoy Shadowrun returns, I'll probably buy it on my Ipad as well (Still wish they would start releasing games for multiple platforms with one purchase though).

I'm really hoping that Shadowrun Returns expands on the awesome fun that I had with the original sega shadowrun game. I would really love to see more character choices (Adepts would be awesome. I so loved my Troll Adept in PnP version). I don't even need a much longer story etc then the original...as long as I have more options on how to play through it. Add in player based missions from the editors ...and well I could be playing it for years!! That would really rule:)

[wulfster42]

Quick question about the Sega game. Did anyone ever make a shaman...who maxed out cyberware? I'm wondering if you can still use the shaman only items that boost defense or combat pool....along with dermal plating/wired reflexes etc?

I've played the game a ton of times over the years, but usually didn't play as a shaman.....and I never played as a shaman that ended up getting a bunch of implants. I think I once did go with a shaman that had a datajack..and smartlink for shooting.....but I never dropped a shamans essense below 5.

I'm gonna test it and see, cause if you could get BOTH dermal plating and the defensive talisman..and especially if you could get the combat pool boost talisman as well, that could really make you hard to damage.

Kinda almost like making an adept in a way:)

In theory, nothing is holding a shaman back from getting as much cyberware as a samuri...but with the added bonus of being able to use spellcaster only boosts as well.

[Big Dookie]

Originally posted by Evilpenguin:

emulating games is perfectly legal for vaporware like the SNES and Genesis shadowrun games. The companies that made them don't exist anymore, and no one has the license for those. Otherwise, no, they've never ported the sega Shadowrun to PC.

Not only did you misuse the term "vaporware" you're also completely wrong. They are illegal under almost all circumstances in the US

[guntoting_lawbreaker]

i'm completely against piracy, but for old sega genesis games you either can use an emulator or just never play the game again. i'd buy them if they sold them, i bought all the sega classics ther released on steam and the old direct2drive. but classic games like xmen1 and 2 will NEVER get sold again. so you better believe i'll emulate them.

[HolyMole]

Originally posted by guntoting_lawbreaker:

i'm completely against piracy, but for old sega genesis games you either can use an emulator or just never play the game again. i'd buy them if they sold them, i bought all the sega classics ther released on steam and the old direct2drive. but classic games like xmen1 and 2 will NEVER get sold again. so you better believe i'll emulate them.

x-men 1 (genesis) = http://www.amazon.com/video-games/dp/B000035XLE

and

x-men 2 (genesis) = http://www.amazon.com/X-Men-2-Clone-Wars-Pc/dp/B00002ST7U/ref=pd_sim_vg_1

[HolyMole]

The nintendo site is explicit in saying that roms are illegal to download. They do not touch on what is legal, and that half-truth attitude bothers me a bit.

I'm not an authority on the law and I have tons of questions, like you. For example, is it legal to create a ROM backup of a physical cartidge that I own and then open that specific file with an emulator on my pc or n7?

Also, this looks kinda interesting: https://www.retrode.com/

Nowadays, there seems to be a bunch of retro-hardware-alternatives going around: http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/retro-gaming/

[Wolfgang421]

Originally posted by wulfster42:

Of the two, the sega version was by far my favorite. I gave away my nintendo and games to some kids along time ago, but I kept my sega system and a few games (including shadowrun of course). Before I go rooting through all my old game systems to set it back up (and find all the power cords etc) I thought I would check in and see if they possibly released the game on another system (They have tons of sega games on the playstation network for instance..so it's possible).

I know there are emulators etc, but I believe those are illegal...and I don't want to get involved with piracy etc. I'm looking for a legit way to re-get the game...without having to play it on my old system. Preferably on my PC...but it could be on my xbox360 or ps3, Wii etc.

Figured it would be fun to replay the old one while I wait for the new one to be released:)

While one has not been made yet, there are a couple of backers - maybe more - working toward remaking the sega and SNES shadowrun games using the level editor of Shadowrun Returns.

[Exanterith]

Originally posted by wulfster42:

Quick question about the Sega game. Did anyone ever make a shaman...who maxed out cyberware? I'm wondering if you can still use the shaman only items that boost defense or combat pool....along with dermal plating/wired reflexes etc?

As far as min/maxing, going the Shaman rout is the best because it gives you a feature not accessible to the other classes. The other classes give you an advantage in items, cyberware, or stat points, but the Shaman can buy and access everything the other two classes have access to. So, even if you plan on bringing your essence down to .1, you can still effectively use non-scaling abilities like Invisibility that greatly help corp runs. The disadvantage is the slower/weaker start, but if you're min/maxing that doesn't really matter at all. Dermal Armor, Wired Reflexes, Smart Link, Datajack, they all work just as well on a Shaman as any other class.

[guntoting_lawbreaker]

Originally posted by deekr:

Originally posted by guntoting_lawbreaker:

i'm completely against piracy, but for old sega genesis games you either can use an emulator or just never play the game again. i'd buy them if they sold them, i bought all the sega classics ther released on steam and the old direct2drive. but classic games like xmen1 and 2 will NEVER get sold again. so you better believe i'll emulate them.

x-men 1 (genesis) = http://www.amazon.com/video-games/dp/B000035XLE

and

x-men 2 (genesis) = http://www.amazon.com/X-Men-2-Clone-Wars-Pc/dp/B00002ST7U/ref=pd_sim_vg_1

the people who made those games are getting NONE of that money. if you want to spend money on used cartridges that are over twenty years old feel free. i'll continue to play my kaga fusion. if they ever bring those games to steam i'll buy them in a heart beat, but it's not going to happen.