-40% sale on Battle.net, but

[MaDeuce]

-40% sale on Battle.net, but I got down to the 'compare products' area and realized that with all of the extra stuff this game is trying to sell, it should be free to play. Between the mounts, the mount armor, the pets, the cosmetics, the battle pass, the accelerated battle pass, emotes, etc, it's like I'm really just paying for a digital wares catalog used to sell me more ♥♥♥♥. This is a lot like the crap you find shoved in your mail box that goes directly into the trash, except having to pay $70 for the privilege of throwing it away.

I was just about to pull the trigger on buying it, but there's no way this game doesn't go free to download in the near future. I should just wait, right?

[Toshi]

These items are cosmetic thus optionnal. 70 hours played sor far and I did not spend a penny more than the base price. I don't need the battle pass, I don't need meither the fancy mount nor the fancy skin. I paid 50€ so I am at 71 cents/hour played. Still not level 100 with my character so the amount paid per hour played will definitely be lower (that's nice)

I started playing after the release of season 2. I am enjoying the game so IMHO these 50€ were well spent.

[Annihilator]

Originally posted by MaDeuce:

-40% sale on Battle.net, but I got down to the 'compare products' area and realized that with all of the extra stuff this game is trying to sell, it should be free to play. Between the mounts, the mount armor, the pets, the cosmetics, the battle pass, the accelerated battle pass, emotes, etc, it's like I'm really just paying for a digital wares catalog used to sell me more ♥♥♥♥. This is a lot like the crap you find shoved in your mail box that goes directly into the trash, except having to pay $70 for the privilege of throwing it away.

I was just about to pull the trigger on buying it, but there's no way this game doesn't go free to download in the near future. I should just wait, right?

Already have diablo immortal for free dubt make it too.

[Jillas]

Originally posted by Annihilator:

Already have diablo immortal for free dubt make it too.

Good point, I'll just add that Diablo Immortal isn't mobile exclusive, meaning that anyone can play it via PC too, so that makes even less sense in making both Diablo games F2P.

They also gonna release a first paid expansion for D4 by the end of 2024, so that would mean that D4 will actually cost the same or even higher that it is right now, the same way SnowRunner does; The base game got discounted, but because once a year they add a new expansion to the bundle, and by doing so the game with expansion has the same cost as the base game had during the release days!

[😎Astran😾]

Their sale / marketing is as bad as the initial version of the game: instead of offering me 50% + plat discount (which I'd gladly take) they are offering me the discounted game which I've bought long ago + useless discounts on the ugly sets which I've ignored due to their low quality (the good ones I've bought for full price)

This season I'm taking my cosmetics money to the less inept sellers/publishers.

[PatateTbk]

Originally posted by MaDeuce:

-40% sale on Battle.net, but I got down to the 'compare products' area and realized that with all of the extra stuff this game is trying to sell, it should be free to play. Between the mounts, the mount armor, the pets, the cosmetics, the battle pass, the accelerated battle pass, emotes, etc, it's like I'm really just paying for a digital wares catalog used to sell me more ♥♥♥♥. This is a lot like the crap you find shoved in your mail box that goes directly into the trash, except having to pay $70 for the privilege of throwing it away.

I was just about to pull the trigger on buying it, but there's no way this game doesn't go free to download in the near future. I should just wait, right?

Just don't buy the game, it's absolutely not worth it.

Not only is it not gonna be F2P starting next year they are doing yearly expansion release, yup you heard that right, yearly expansion release. Surely those will be amazing if they only have a year of Dev time on it plus having to release 4 seasons per year right ? Oh and you can bet those expansions are gonna be 40-70$ so if just the base game seems high for you just wait until there's 5 expansions to buy as well.

[Jillas]

Originally posted by PatateTbk:

Oh and you can bet those expansions are gonna be 40-70$ so if just the base game seems high for you just wait until there's 5 expansions to buy as well.

Probably 50-90$ https://www.spieltimes.com/news/world-of-warcraft-dragonflight-expansion-2022-preorder-now-available/

[MaDeuce]

Originally posted by PatateTbk:

Originally posted by MaDeuce:

-40% sale on Battle.net, but I got down to the 'compare products' area and realized that with all of the extra stuff this game is trying to sell, it should be free to play. Between the mounts, the mount armor, the pets, the cosmetics, the battle pass, the accelerated battle pass, emotes, etc, it's like I'm really just paying for a digital wares catalog used to sell me more ♥♥♥♥. This is a lot like the crap you find shoved in your mail box that goes directly into the trash, except having to pay $70 for the privilege of throwing it away.

I was just about to pull the trigger on buying it, but there's no way this game doesn't go free to download in the near future. I should just wait, right?

Just don't buy the game, it's absolutely not worth it.

Not only is it not gonna be F2P starting next year they are doing yearly expansion release, yup you heard that right, yearly expansion release. Surely those will be amazing if they only have a year of Dev time on it plus having to release 4 seasons per year right ? Oh and you can bet those expansions are gonna be 40-70$ so if just the base game seems high for you just wait until there's 5 expansions to buy as well.

They went from 10, 20, to 40% off since the game was released and lost 99% of the player base. I don't see how $70 expansions are going to work for a game that no one plays. Isn't it more likely that we'll see even deeper discounts on the base game to drive up population in order to sell them expansions? For example, a few months before releasing an expansion that contains the base game, before enticing them to buy the base game again that includes the expansion. Unless the expansions aren't wrapped up into one like they usually are.

Actually it doesn't even mater. Just talking about this ♥♥♥♥ turns me off. Even if the game was free I don't really have a desire to be farmed by blizzard.

[UwU]

game will go f2p before the next expansion.

[Jillas]

Originally posted by UwU:

game will go f2p before the next expansion.

Tell it to ActiBlizz, they could made CoD free instead of selling it as premium games (not just Warzone, I'm talking about free MP modes), considering how much money they make from cosmetic bundles alone (a single $15 WoW horse mount made more money than the whole StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-15-horse-microtransaction-in-wow-made-more-money-than-starcraft-ii.784979/ Single MTX item can outsell a AAA game, that's actually crazy), but it doesn't mean that they will stop profiting from selling the games itself, especially now, when you can insert MTX into Premium games and still get a free pass.

[PatateTbk]

Originally posted by Jillas ⁧⁧🐰:

Originally posted by PatateTbk:

Oh and you can bet those expansions are gonna be 40-70$ so if just the base game seems high for you just wait until there's 5 expansions to buy as well.

Probably 50-90$ :squash: https://www.spieltimes.com/news/world-of-warcraft-dragonflight-expansion-2022-preorder-now-available/

To be fair, WoW expansion aren't usually yearly. Still a total scam though.

[PatateTbk]

Originally posted by MaDeuce:

Originally posted by PatateTbk:

Just don't buy the game, it's absolutely not worth it.

Not only is it not gonna be F2P starting next year they are doing yearly expansion release, yup you heard that right, yearly expansion release. Surely those will be amazing if they only have a year of Dev time on it plus having to release 4 seasons per year right ? Oh and you can bet those expansions are gonna be 40-70$ so if just the base game seems high for you just wait until there's 5 expansions to buy as well.

They went from 10, 20, to 40% off since the game was released and lost 99% of the player base. I don't see how $70 expansions are going to work for a game that no one plays. Isn't it more likely that we'll see even deeper discounts on the base game to drive up population in order to sell them expansions? For example, a few months before releasing an expansion that contains the base game, before enticing them to buy the base game again that includes the expansion. Unless the expansions aren't wrapped up into one like they usually are.

Actually it doesn't even mater. Just talking about this ♥♥♥♥ turns me off. Even if the game was free I don't really have a desire to be farmed by blizzard.

You're absolutely right about the discount getting bigger and bigger the closer we get to the expansion release date, that's how you bait people into buying your product. If you hook someone 2 months before the expansion release and they don't play enough to figure out the game is shallow, bland and incredibly boring, they will buy the expansion. The bigger the discount the bigger are their chance to hook people like that.

On the other hand you are wrong about selling it for 70$ if they want do, simply because that decision is made by people who just look at how many people bought the game, how many idiots bought the 100$ edition and make the decision that 70$ for an expansion is alright. ( Could be 50 for a "poor man" edition and 70 for the "Ultra ultimate 666 diablo still not in his own game" edition )

Edit: And yes im also absolutely disgusted by this whole D4 thing, biggest buyer's remorse i've ever had in my whole life i can tell you that much coming as a huge fan of ARPGs and Diablo in general, even though i didn't particularly love D3 i still prolly sank 1-2k hours over the years in the game but D4 after like 40 hours and one character to 90 im pretty much done forever.

[MaDeuce]

Originally posted by PatateTbk:

Originally posted by MaDeuce:

They went from 10, 20, to 40% off since the game was released and lost 99% of the player base. I don't see how $70 expansions are going to work for a game that no one plays. Isn't it more likely that we'll see even deeper discounts on the base game to drive up population in order to sell them expansions? For example, a few months before releasing an expansion that contains the base game, before enticing them to buy the base game again that includes the expansion. Unless the expansions aren't wrapped up into one like they usually are.

Actually it doesn't even mater. Just talking about this ♥♥♥♥ turns me off. Even if the game was free I don't really have a desire to be farmed by blizzard.

You're absolutely right aobut the discount getting bigger and bigger the closer we get to the expansion release date, that's how you bait people into buying your product. If you hook someone 2 months before the expansion release and they don't play enough to figure out the game is shallow, bland and incredibly boring, they will buy the expansion. The bigger the discount the bigger are their chance to hook people like that.

On the other hand you are wrong about selling it for 70$ if they want do, simply because that decision is made by people who just look at how many people bought the game, how many idiots bought the 100$ edition and make the decision that 70$ for an expansion is alright. ( Could be 50 for a "poor man" edition and 70 for the "Ultrade ultimate 666 diablo still not in his own game" edition )

I guess it depends on if they are rolling up each expansion into the base game to keep the perceived value of $70, or what ever it is. If they do what was implied earlier of having to buy 5 expansions separately from the base game then I don't see how that's going to work. It wouldn't make a difference for people who play the game, but for someone just trying to get into it, it would be a big deal.

It just seems to me that the elastic sweet spot for blizzard would be free to play the base game, expansions require purchase. That, or they're at least already making plans for it to be in the Microsoft game pass. Either way I think this current sale is a ploy to milk as much as they can initially before going full cash shop and DLC model, so in that regard 40% off is still 100% too much.

"As we continue to work toward regulatory approval of the Microsoft deal, we’ve been getting some questions whether our upcoming and recently launched games will be available via Game Pass," says the statement. "While we do not have plans to put Modern Warfare III or Diablo IV into Game Pass this year, once the deal closes, we expect to start working with Xbox to bring our titles to more players around the world. And we anticipate that we would begin adding games into Game Pass sometime in the course of next year."

[😎Astran😾]

Once again - in case if MicroActiblizz read this stuff - I'll send you money once you figure out I want 50-75% discounted platinum, not the discounted ugly ♥♥♥♥♥ costumes you offer (and I've ignored).

Take a look at the successful Warframe plat pricing and or postal stamps sales scheme, you unpaid interns (postal stamps sales scheme is described nicely by Terry Pratchett)

[Accordinance]

More than that - ingame marktplace looks ugly as hell. Static images. Rendered by junior students or I dont know. Looks just disgusting!
PoE2 will just kill this boring pile. Blizz always was way too much greedy. But now they decided it was not enough. I just stopped to play this after I bought season 1. And NO, I will not buy your believes again. Release big story DLC - then maybe we'll see if you deserve some money Newblizz.
And yes - you disappointed me with D3 last DLC cancellation. So much lost potential. For this..

[Jillas]

Originally posted by MaDeuce:

It just seems to me that the elastic sweet spot for blizzard would be free to play the base game, expansions require purchase. That, or they're at least already making plans for it to be in the Microsoft game pass. Either way I think this current sale is a ploy to milk as much as they can initially before going full cash shop and DLC model, so in that regard 40% off is still 100% too much.

There's a huge issue I have with a Game Pass, I don't think that Game Pass actually allows any DLC or Expansions purchases, so I wouldn't recommend anyone to actually play D4 or any other live service game via Game Pass. At best you can use it to test how good it runs on your machine and to understand how good/bad the game is, but not for actually playing it for months+

Originally posted by Astran:

Once again - in case if MicroActiblizz read this stuff - I'll send you money once you figure out I want 50-75% discounted platinum, not the discounted ugly ♥♥♥♥♥ costumes you offer (and I've ignored).

Take a look at the successful Warframe plat pricing and or postal stamps sales scheme, you unpaid interns (postal stamps sales scheme is described nicely by Terry Pratchett)

I played a lot of F2P games (including Warframe and DoAXVV), but discounts on premium currency packs is a rare sight, I don't think ActiBlizz will ever agree to that, because people probably would just stop buying premium currency packs, if they knew that they can save big by waiting for the next discount on premium currency. It's either need to be a very small discount like -20% off max, or it should be done by adding temporary currency packs that give more currency than normal packs, but they are tied to some big event like new season release or new expansion release, so the players knew that they would have to wait for a year for the next discount on premium currency (and again it shouldn't be done as a discount, but as timed offers for a additional packs with bigger amount of currency).