make nahantu great

[Irene ❤]

Other than 3 town areas undercity, dark citadel and the den, the expansion map is kind of a huge redundant and duplicate. For example World boss and Helltide can spawn in both new nahantu and old fractured peaks.

suggestions :
- add 1 new world boss in nahantu where we can use combine summon materials. (e.g. maligant heart + living steel). The boss will drop very random uniques and a new 13th mythic.

- a second whisper system for nahantu. Maybe call it the Akarat's blessing. Doing dungeons in nahantu will be awarded Akarat blessing points and to exchange them for gear and bargains.

- dungeons in nahantu will rely on survival. Instead of another AI procedure generate run, the player holds a spot and survive incoming waves of jungle predators. e.g. mega giant sized scorpions. The quicker the player can kill them all, the earlier the dungeon ends.

[😎Astran😾]

> For example World boss and Helltide can spawn in both new nahantu and old fractured peaks.

Meaning you can grab Tree points from both locations during a day. That's a feature akin to pay2win

[blossomguts]

these are good ideas, i was so disappointed we didn't get a new world boss! it would also be cool to have a pvp dungeon or area in nahantu, something to make pvp fun and worth it so we can break up the grind

[Neithan]

The reason we get "only" the same world bosses and whisper system like the base game is a way to prevent even more "p2w" whine about the expansion. A world boss spawning in Nahatnu, or whisper quests, do not replace any of the base game rota, that is why we get 2 world bosses simultanely, if one of them spawns in Nahatnu.

It basically just expands those base game systems into the expansion area, so that people in the expansion area can do those as well, without anything locked for those without the expansion. So any new boss, or change to the whisper system, should affect basegame and expansion, so no one is left out.

Having a Nahatnu-specific world/uber boss (with special loottable even, like that mythic you propose), or Nahatnu-specific whisper rewards, would just not go well with the community.

[Neithan]

Originally posted by Irene ❤:

What? there is no pay to win. ^ ^; It is an expansion set not just a DLC. If you googled for Vessel of Hatred it states clearly in blizzard site "expansion". Expansion is to add more stages, items, upgrades. For example the all popular Starcraft Broodwar add medics to marines, will people call it pay to win back then?

The real pay to win stuff are the people duplicating gold, people buy their gold on 3rd party sites and trade for powerful gear. Yet nobody complain about pay to win. How do you think people all had 50 billion all of a sudden? Why do you think trade items are all having that inflated price.

VoH currently offers :
- Tribute of Ascendance
whisper can now drop this tribute, which when use in undercity, has a good chance to obtain mythics.

- Mercenary
Picking subo will reveal every enemy on map. It's like a map hack ability. Once you pick this mercenary you won't want to pick others.

- Runes
Good runes such as 'Lith' 'Neo' lets you regen mana and hp to max every 2 seconds when used correctly. Combo with some aspect and you can spam strong attacks endlessly.

Expansion sets are suppose to give you more things to play with, not repeating the same things under a different skin.

My point was, there is a difference between adding new mechanics/content to the expansion, like Undercity, Mercs or Runes, compared to adding stuff to base mechanics, that become then locked behind the expansion.

And I am not here to argue (again..) if an Expansion/Addon is "p2w" (VoH is not), but that there is a thin red line for the devs to consider stuff when it comes to community reaction and possible backlash.

[Irene ❤]

My point is that expansion can include a new boss. :D

Also don't worry about pay to win because we can only do 1 thing at a time.

Example : New Akarat whisper. We can now either do the tree whisper twice, or do akarat once and tree once, or Akarat twice.