Game gets a bit boring, disappointing patch and a bad classbalance

[Jirai]

Class balance is a joke.
Yeah nice that you guys pleased all the Spiritborn addicted players... whats with the rest of the classes?
Bringing out a patch with no balance?
Did you guys watch the leaderboards one single time?
Are you even aware that all classes are trash except Spiritborn?
Do you not mind the 5% people who dont like Spiritborn and leaving the game now because the frustrating farm is not rewarded because my class (not a Spiritborn) is trash?
Nice to make no money in trade with items for other classes because almost everybody and his/her grandma want Spiritborn items.

For real where is the freaking quality of life?
There is no chance you ever tested your game! Blizzard you getting worse and worse and I will vote in the future just not with my wallet!

[LOL]

They don't have a QA or testing team any more. Once they realized they can push out prototype material with passing graphics and people still bought it they then axed those teams.

[samcharles77]

Pulverize druid with lightning is trash? Ok then.
Of course spiritborn is going to be the best right now. They want to entice people to buy the DLC.

[Mist of Majora]

Since you've made it very apparent that you're talking nonsense (spiritborn IS the best - got that right at least), let me join in with a fun nonsense question:

If a 'bad' game gets a 'bad' patch... couldn't that mean the game temporarily got... good?

[LOL]

Originally posted by Mist of Majora:

Since you've made it very apparent that you're talking nonsense (spiritborn IS the best - got that right at least), let me join in with a fun nonsense question:

If a 'bad' game gets a 'bad' patch... couldn't that mean the game temporarily got... good?

Um... what? Patches are additive. If it is a bad game and received a bad patch that makes the game worse.

[Jirai]

Originally posted by Mist of Majora:

Since you've made it very apparent that you're talking nonsense (spiritborn IS the best - got that right at least), let me join in with a fun nonsense question:

If a 'bad' game gets a 'bad' patch... couldn't that mean the game temporarily got... good?

Says somebody who likes to trigger people by talking nonsense himself?

In addition look at the leaderboard...holy crap what kind of lightyears is the Spiritborn away and I don't mind that the Spiritborn is being strong but I do mind that a lot of other classes will never touch 150 Pit because they lack damage referring to the actual content.
I don't know why I should go on playing the game when a goal that has been set by myself is not reachable due to freaking bad quality of class balance.

[Hauptmann]

Why does the Spiritborn feel so horribly weak? I've got decent gear but my DPS is garbage. Can't get a good build going.

[Neithan]

Originally posted by Jiraishin:

Originally posted by Mist of Majora:

Since you've made it very apparent that you're talking nonsense (spiritborn IS the best - got that right at least), let me join in with a fun nonsense question:

If a 'bad' game gets a 'bad' patch... couldn't that mean the game temporarily got... good?

Says somebody who likes to trigger people by talking nonsense himself?

In addition look at the leaderboard...holy crap what kind of lightyears is the Spiritborn away and I don't mind that the Spiritborn is being strong but I do mind that a lot of other classes will never touch 150 Pit because they lack damage referring to the actual content.
I don't know why I should go on playing the game when a goal that has been set by myself is not reachable due to freaking bad quality of class balance.

Now the question is... you want a buff to your class to be "competitive" (in a SP/Coop game), or you want to nerf Spiritborn to get in line with the rest?
In general, people often say that buffs to weak contenders is better than nerfing the strong ones, but seriously, balancing IS a complicated issue, and not as easy an task as some people seem to think.

And I rather have them "overtune" the new class, for "marketing" reasons or whatever, and then try to fit it into general balance "long-term" (next season).

But you mention "self-set goals", my question is, what IS your goal?

I for one like to try stuff out, do my thing, and see how far I can get, and when I reach the end off the road (wall), I either look into meta to see what I can improve on my char, or I start a new one.

And so far, I really enjoy the Spiritborn (full Jaguar skillset with eagle/gorilla spirit) at T2/T3, I think they did a good job with reconfiguring the difficulty.

So while "Meta" build play T4 with ease and clear Pit 150+, I couldn't care less, as long as I have fun playing at the level I am at.

[Neithan]

Originally posted by Hauptmann:

Why does the Spiritborn feel so horribly weak? I've got decent gear but my DPS is garbage. Can't get a good build going.

Because you are doing it wrong?

I mean, Spiritborn IS the FotM right now, if you got issues, the problem is not the class I would assume.

[ShallotMussels]

I don't quite get what you are upset about.

[DirtyMick]

Originally posted by Hauptmann:

Why does the Spiritborn feel so horribly weak? I've got decent gear but my DPS is garbage. Can't get a good build going.

Because you're not abusing any of the broken parts of the class. It can actually be somewhat hard to find yourself. But internet is a thing now, and arpgs have turned into a game of copying builds. So just look it up, or continue struggling until you find the magic combination of gear/skills that makes spiritborn OP. And then realize that's what people have been doing already while you put yourself through hell grinding away weakly because you have too much pride to copy someone else's build.

I decided not to copy a build this season, and I'm paying for it myself lol. Luckily, I chose the right thing and stumbled on the OP dodge storm feather thing. Thats been carrying me. I do very little damage outside of that. Eventually I'm going to just look up a build, but I haven't been playing much so not there yet. I just finished the campaign the other day finally lol.

[Jirai]

Originally posted by ShallotMussels:

I don't quite get what you are upset about.

Because others classes do not feel good at all and my goal is to get to Pit Level 150 and finish it but regarding the leaderboards it is not possible except with the Spiritborn.

[DirtyMick]

Originally posted by Jiraishin:

Originally posted by ShallotMussels:

I don't quite get what you are upset about.

Because others classes do not feel good at all and my goal is to get to Pit Level 150 and finish it but regarding the leaderboards it is not possible except with the Spiritborn.

Why 150?

[Jirai]

Originally posted by DirtyMick:

Originally posted by Jiraishin:

Because others classes do not feel good at all and my goal is to get to Pit Level 150 and finish it but regarding the leaderboards it is not possible except with the Spiritborn.

Why 150?

Because that is my personally set goal.

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by Jiraishin:

Class balance is a joke.
Yeah nice that you guys pleased all the Spiritborn addicted players... whats with the rest of the classes?

It's a brand new class.

OF COURSE they're going to buff it so that the players that paid for DLC get served...

There are plenty of other builds/classes in the S and A tiers across the rating spectrum. Play one of those.

Are you even aware that all classes are trash except Spiritborn?

There isn't a class that, with a build of my choice, I couldn't take to T4 and Pit 100. What's your problem?

Every class has a top build for that class or several... and they're very viable builds. Don't get mad just because your Barb Leapsinger build is busted.

Next Season, it'll be some other class or build that is pushing the charts. And then, another and another and another - That's how this all works. It keeps the game from stagnating into "the one build to rule them all."

[LOL]

Originally posted by Morkonan:

Originally posted by Jiraishin:

Class balance is a joke.
Yeah nice that you guys pleased all the Spiritborn addicted players... whats with the rest of the classes?

It's a brand new class.

OF COURSE they're going to buff it so that the players that paid for DLC get served...

There are plenty of other builds/classes in the S and A tiers across the rating spectrum. Play one of those.

Are you even aware that all classes are trash except Spiritborn?

There isn't a class that, with a build of my choice, I couldn't take to T4 and Pit 100. What's your problem?

Every class has a top build for that class or several... and they're very viable builds. Don't get mad just because your Barb Leapsinger build is busted.

Next Season, it'll be some other class or build that is pushing the charts. And then, another and another and another - That's how this all works. It keeps the game from stagnating into "the one build to rule them all."

Uh.... pit 100 can be done with white gear. That isn't some kind of "accomplishment" you are making it out to be, lol.