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If Diablo 4 win game awards (they will) will be joke of the year.
I don't think so.
He does have a point, though - "ARPG" has progressed quite a bit with a lot more complexity.
It's basically growing into a sort of big "MMO" sort of thing with tons of different components. I don't mean the big multiplayer bit, but all the other things like unique dungeons, more open worlds, crafting, several different sorts of progressive mechanics, "alternate" builds with lots of ways to customize one's play... It certainly is a genre that has "grown" in terms of what players expect.
I've been trying to find another ARPG-like game out there that offers tons of things that... didn't used to be in many ARPG games, but are starting to appear in them. So, thinking back on it, I'm looking for "next-gen" iterations of the ARPG genre. That kind of fits with what he's talking about.
"Diablo" has been used to describe mechanics in other games. The "Diablo-like Loot" generation phrase comes up constantly when people review other games of any sort.
I do think, though, he's saying not-much about not-much, here... I don't think he's melting down, though. That's kind of silly. He may be reacting to some pressure he feels from fans/internals to expand gameplay in Diablo 4. But, there's also the sane approach of preventing "feature creep." A Seasonal system should help with that by providing fresh gameplay opportunities, but maybe he feels the demands there are too great?
PoE is a huge game. PoE2 will be huge, as well. That is what PoE fans expect and GGG has a pretty well-tuned machine of a development process to meet such demands. I don't think Ferguson has anything to worry about as fans playing Diablo shouldn't be expecting PoE... /shrug
PS: D4 shouldn't win any Game Awards. Not because it's bad, but just because it was released in 2023 and I do not think any DLC should qualify any game for an entry outside of the base-game's release date.
"2024 Game Award: Cashing the Biggest Check of the Year"
Pretty darn funny, thanks. :)
Honestly... Big Name Executives should refrain from social media. They should have handlers read over what they want to say and give them some feedback before it gets posted "live."
Let's face it - Whenever someone from the C-suite comments on anything the gaming community or fans could be deeply engaged with... it blows up in their face and likely costs their company/concern a lot of cash.
Not all publicity is actually good publicity.
Genuinely funny that you think that's how major corporations work. I laughed out loud in real life. You think a giant company like Blizzard works like that. They just do an instant, unplanned sale, on a whim because of a stream. That's hilarious.
You guys are the ones having a meltdown over his opinion.
Elden Ring and Path of Exile are both represented as ARPG genre.
Do you think these two vastly different games are still the same genre or is it too far from each other at this point and maybe sub-genres should take precedent for them, with Elden Ring being an open-world soulslike?
In that situation, Path of Exile would be a diablolike.
The reason why Elden Ring is a 'soulslike' is not because Dark Souls is the better game...
The term 'soulslike' has nothing to do with Dark Souls being the best game in the genre, it's DEFINITELY not the best game in the genre at this point.
The term is called that just because Dark Souls was the most prominent game in the genre at the time and became a grandfather title. THAT is why Elden Ring is a 'soulslike'.
And that's why 'diablolike' also would make sense. I am not saying it will catch on, it probably won't of course, but undeniably Diablo 2 is the grandfather of this genre.
There already IS something like Diablo-like, as in, the majority of ARPGs that came afterwards?
It's only that calling something "xxx-like" is a habit of like, the recent decade, and thus was never termed to Diablo much.
And actually, Diablo itself is just another "Rogue-like", as ultimately it was a concept of cloning the Rogue-formula, and over the course turned it even into real-time.
The point he/Blizz might miss here, is that Diablo may have set alot of standards when it comes to the design of ARPGs, but no specific game element that elavates it above other games in the genre (not talking about the quality/art, they surely are above most competition there), as long as they follow the initial rogue-like formula.
Although, if there is one thing I would contribute to Diablo as setting an ultimate standard for the genre, is the UI design, especially in regards of the health and mana globes. Although, thinking about it, not sure if those where not present in some other game before, but Diablo made them sure as hell popular.
[Edith says]
There is actually a lot of "standards" Diablo set with their first release, and expanded upon with the second, like just the coloring of items according to a "grade" and such.
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What Dravic said.
GGG has always said they are "Diablo like" because they where huge fans of Diablo 2 and they wanted to make the spirital succesor to Diablo 2 a game Rod Fergusson had nothing to do with.
The original Diablo developers where even found on Exile Con last year because they dislike what Blizzard has done with their legacy and have been vocal about it on Youtube videos in the past.
Most people already call games with diablo loot "Diablo like" because it is common knowledge it was the first of its kind, it is not about being right or wrong but about the timing of it, Diablo 4 had a dev stream at the same time as GGG and they got embarrassed that some one showed them how a "Diablo like" game is actually supposed to be made. Diablo 4 isn't even Diablo like itself its more of an MMO-Lite
On top of that in a deleted tweet Rod Fergusson said he was going to a resting resort for a few days that has no internet to avoid the trolls, seems to me like a meltdown, but keep coping.
Oh really. Game companies like move studios move releases around to avoid each other. You must be naive to think a major corporation doesn't respond to competition.
U mean blackrock.
Not Blizzard, they thought it was smart to have their half-season stream at the same time as the big Path of Exile 2 stream