Is Loot Reborn worth reinstalling?

[k371n]

Started playing since beta/release and a little bit of season 1 and then uninstalled. I'm seeing good reviews what's happening?

[FhqwhTODD]

Originally posted by Kind Buddy:

I was just joking; it's what blizzard PR said during blizzcon when they announced diablo immortal and solidified the micro transaction laden hell that diablo has become

I know. I didn't have a phone back then as well.

Originally posted by owlBear:

I've completed all the seasons but 1 (cuz it sucked) and can say s4, while the season theme is clearly an afterthought, is probably best state for the game. But its still D4 ironing out the kinks of a mediocre launch state.

Too bad that the vaults are gone. Such an improvement on the terrible NMDs.

[Neithan]

Originally posted by Gnodab:

Loot is much improved, game is much better overall.

That being said, Diablo IV is basically a mobile game now. Where you grind this dungeon to get a currency so you can spend it to open a portal to another dungeon where you kill monsters to fill up a bar, then you kill the boss so it drops mats so you can fill up this other bar on your gear. It's addict central.

The game is admittedly fun, but be wary. It absolutely wants to sink its hooks into you.

Diablo always was about the "addicting loot hunt", there also was gambling, and ofc the whole gameplay loop is meant to "hook you up", they built the core gameplay long before mobile was a thing.

[Biff]

No. And the people saying "yes" will be bored in 2 weeks because they don't understand what actually makes an ARPG worth playing.

[Shield]

Originally posted by Biff:

No. And the people saying "yes" will be bored in 2 weeks because they don't understand what actually makes an ARPG worth playing.

Oh, well, do enlighten us

[DJ Gershwin]

Originally posted by Donnercock™:

all of you awnsering dont own it, an awnser from someone that owns and plays it pls

imagine people owning something NOT on steam before you look like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot.

[DJ Gershwin]

Originally posted by Neithan:

Originally posted by Gnodab:

Loot is much improved, game is much better overall.

That being said, Diablo IV is basically a mobile game now. Where you grind this dungeon to get a currency so you can spend it to open a portal to another dungeon where you kill monsters to fill up a bar, then you kill the boss so it drops mats so you can fill up this other bar on your gear. It's addict central.

The game is admittedly fun, but be wary. It absolutely wants to sink its hooks into you.

Diablo always was about the "addicting loot hunt", there also was gambling, and ofc the whole gameplay loop is meant to "hook you up", they built the core gameplay long before mobile was a thing.

Yeah but 4 was clearly leaning heavily on the skinnerbox aspects of Immortal don't pretend arpgs were magically always like that. The point is the grind needs to be satisfying and not "grind x currency to maybe upgrade y" like it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Black Desert or some other kind of korean garbage

[Kind Buddy]

sounds like they inserted gacha mechanics on top of the micro transactions

[Neithan]

Originally posted by Kind Buddy:

sounds like they inserted gacha mechanics on top of the micro transactions

Sounds like people are throwing buzzwords like Skinner Box or Gacha around without a clue about the actual meaning..

[bshock]

Check it out but be aware not much has changed other than being able to better select what mods are applied to your gear. The general game flow has not changed.

[Cuponoodle]

I'll play again when they put druid on a diet. Shouldn't have to play a class I don't like so my character is healthy.

[Neithan]

Originally posted by bshock:

Check it out but be aware not much has changed other than being able to better select what mods are applied to your gear. The general game flow has not changed.

Actually, there is (again) alot of small changes, QoL mostly, that really shows that they are listening and actively working on improving the overall player experience. The game has grown decently since launch, and while there is still stuff to fix (mostly about "endgame" content), their track record so far looks really good, and I am positive about further improvements.

[DJ Gershwin]

Originally posted by Neithan:

Originally posted by Kind Buddy:

sounds like they inserted gacha mechanics on top of the micro transactions

Sounds like people are throwing buzzwords like Skinner Box or Gacha around without a clue about the actual meaning.. :braindumpster:

lol speak for yourself but black desert is textbook skinnerbox, as you were bro.

[Neithan]

Originally posted by Cuponoodle:

I'll play again when they put druid on a diet. Shouldn't have to play a class I don't like so my character is healthy.

Personally, I really don't get the problem with that. For me, I somewhat would divert games into 3 categories when it comes to the players character.

1. Games that offer plenty of options for character customization, and also provide an (roleplay) environment that enables you to actually shape out your character with ingame decisions. Here I can fully embrace the roleplay and create a character either representing me "personally" (probably an idealized version ;)) or some fictitious person to my liking.
A good example for the full visual customization (although limited due to technical aging) would be Star Trek Online.

2. Games that offer you limited character customization, putting your toon into a specific character and/or shape, giving limited or no real roleplay options anyway. In that case I usually go with creating a fictional persona around those given attributes, and just enjoy the ride imagening said persona.
Diablo mostly fits here, I perhaps chose a name and rp persona based on what fits the given character, or model it around some aspect, like the general skillbuild or some cosmetic for their appearance. Example being a pure Fire-Sorc named 'Tim, The Enchanter' (kudos to anyone getting the reference) with attempts to fit the cosmetics to the reference, or going with Cohen, and season after, Conina, for my Barbarian (again, kudos).

3. Games that go with fixed characters and personalities, where the way to roleplay is to "dive into the character" and embrace the given attributes. They still can mix up with case 1 if the roleplay and visual customization options are vast enough.

So while more customization would be nice, I can live with being given a "raw set of visual attributes", like the body size of a class, and then adjust it somewhat to my liking. Not every game has to be "Barbie in Space" (some term I once heard related to STO and the vast array of options to design your characters physicals and especially clothing).

[Neithan]

Originally posted by DJ Gershwin:

lol speak for yourself but black desert is textbook skinnerbox, as you were bro.

A Skinner Box is a testing environment devoid of any outside stimulus or distraction, to then test the subjects reaction to some stimulus or challenge provided in that sterile environment.

Now please, explain how that applies to Diablo 4?

[DJ Gershwin]

Originally posted by Neithan:

Originally posted by DJ Gershwin:

lol speak for yourself but black desert is textbook skinnerbox, as you were bro.

A Skinner Box is a testing environment devoid of any outside stimulus or distraction, to then test the subjects reaction to some stimulus or challenge provided in that sterile environment.
Not here to spoon feed you bro, learn to google. I appreciate your attempt at gaslighting though lol