Diablo® IV

Diablo® IV

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wrwerewrewrw Nov 27, 2023 @ 1:30am
Got bored after finishing Main story an stopped at 68
mindless repetition, side quests are terrible with some exceptions early on. Everywhere u go feels same, endless grind of nightmare dungeons is not appalling for me at at all.

More you progress more tedious and tiresome it gets, i had most fun until 50 , constant gear change is annoying, for some classes and setup takes forever to kill mobs.

Extremely tiresome , bland dull and monotonic game, feels im losing brain cells
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^7ja^1co Nov 27, 2023 @ 1:34am 
Did you buy it at full price or on sale?
Leon Nov 27, 2023 @ 2:12am 
Everything takes time at the beginning, and only real gear changing that matters is at the end game.

Also changing gear early on will not always be a good idea, lets say you have specific build for new blind walkthrough to explore and enjoy the game, wear the things that will actually havr improvement more than losing benefits, so dont always change for item power, but also see if thr properties and such matter or not for your current build.
UwU Nov 27, 2023 @ 2:20am 
like others said dont change gear unless they are for your build, i had a tier 3 staff only at tier 4 with rest of my kit being tier 1 since the items i want never dropped.

and also you get some really good drops in tier 4 that will want to make you do another build.
opAw←G Nov 27, 2023 @ 3:03am 
You prolly are doing something wrong, my rogue had little to no problem at all, breezed through torment 4. Follow a guide and get all the necessary aspects for your build.
StanicEnemy Nov 27, 2023 @ 3:35am 
Ok bro, just dont play it nobody asked for it.
Nix Nov 27, 2023 @ 4:02am 
Originally posted by TeamMinthara:
mindless repetition, side quests are terrible with some exceptions early on. Everywhere u go feels same, endless grind of nightmare dungeons is not appalling for me at at all.

More you progress more tedious and tiresome it gets, i had most fun until 50 , constant gear change is annoying, for some classes and setup takes forever to kill mobs.

Extremely tiresome , bland dull and monotonic game, feels im losing brain cells

You described the mechanics of literally every isometric ARPG in the market: grinding and loot that causes the "swap", except if you do it so often you are either extremely lucky or you don't know what you really need.
If you take forever to kill mobs, given how easy the game currently is, you didn't even bother to read the perks in your skill tree nor bothered to have them interacting properly, leave alone that at that level you didn't even touch the paragon boards.
ARPGs are not for you, If this is your first (and so it seems) now you know, if you knew already what you don't like I don't see why you even tried diablo.
It's like buying Formula 1 and complaining that all you have to do is racing.
^7ja^1co Nov 27, 2023 @ 4:31am 
Originally posted by Nix:
If you take forever to kill mobs, given how easy the game currently is, you didn't even bother to read the perks in your skill tree nor bothered to have them interacting properly
It's like buying Formula 1 and complaining that all you have to do is racing.
Whats the point of reading skill perks if mobs level with you during leveling?
Last edited by ^7ja^1co; Nov 27, 2023 @ 4:31am
DreadLordAvatar Nov 27, 2023 @ 4:54am 
This is why D4 is the worst game in the franchise. A huge discounted price on a new June 2023 released game says it all. Waldo even asks, where’s Diablo?
Nix Nov 27, 2023 @ 4:55am 
Originally posted by ^7ja^1co:
Originally posted by Nix:
If you take forever to kill mobs, given how easy the game currently is, you didn't even bother to read the perks in your skill tree nor bothered to have them interacting properly
It's like buying Formula 1 and complaining that all you have to do is racing.
Whats the point of reading skill perks if mobs level with you during leveling?

The point of every ARPG: create a functional build with sinergies between every element involved, this goes for every game of this kind, if it's not something that you like to do (read, learn, plan) then of course you can't like this kind of games, doesn't matter how good or bad they are.
Too many people bought diablo due to an aggressive marketing campaign, not knowing what really is, they tried to make popular a genre that was always niche... result is that game is too easy for the veterans of the ARPGs and still too complex and hard to grasp for the casuals that bought it after seeing Megan Fox.
The game is not finished, but most of the critics moved to it are no sense:
"whats the point of reading skill perks?"
"why do I have to create a char every season?"
"do I have to grind the whole time?"
If your complaints are along the line of the above it's simply not your genre and there is nothing they can do to make you like it, s2 got a lot of improvements, many more will come and the game will be fixed, but the roots of the genre are firm... those are not going to change.
Grind -> loot -> minmax: don't like? play something else, that's how Arpgs work, that's their core.
^7ja^1co Nov 27, 2023 @ 5:13am 
Originally posted by Nix:
Originally posted by ^7ja^1co:
Whats the point of reading skill perks if mobs level with you during leveling?

The point of every ARPG: create a functional build with sinergies between every element involved, this goes for every game of this kind, if it's not something that you like to do (read, learn, plan) then of course you can't like this kind of games, doesn't matter how good or bad they are.
Too many people bought diablo due to an aggressive marketing campaign, not knowing what really is, they tried to make popular a genre that was always niche... result is that game is too easy for the veterans of the ARPGs and still too complex and hard to grasp for the casuals that bought it after seeing Megan Fox.
The game is not finished, but most of the critics moved to it are no sense:
"whats the point of reading skill perks?"
"why do I have to create a char every season?"
"do I have to grind the whole time?"
If your complaints are along the line of the above it's simply not your genre and there is nothing they can do to make you like it, s2 got a lot of improvements, many more will come and the game will be fixed, but the roots of the genre are firm... those are not going to change.
Grind -> loot -> minmax: don't like? play something else, that's how Arpgs work, that's their core.
No no no, thats not the question. Nobody questions the fact that every hack and slash is repetitive. The question is why bother with anything if monsters level with you?
Inuyaki Nov 27, 2023 @ 5:16am 
Originally posted by ^7ja^1co:
Originally posted by Nix:
If you take forever to kill mobs, given how easy the game currently is, you didn't even bother to read the perks in your skill tree nor bothered to have them interacting properly
It's like buying Formula 1 and complaining that all you have to do is racing.
Whats the point of reading skill perks if mobs level with you during leveling?
Since OP can't seem to make a functional build at level 68!!!, it would have helped immensely I assume. Or they already lost too many brain cells in other games and D4 is too complex now for them.
wrwerewrewrw Nov 27, 2023 @ 5:52am 
Originally posted by Inuyaki:
Originally posted by ^7ja^1co:
Whats the point of reading skill perks if mobs level with you during leveling?
Since OP can't seem to make a functional build at level 68!!!, it would have helped immensely I assume. Or they already lost too many brain cells in other games and D4 is too complex now for them.

I play Baldurs gate III on Tactican hardest difficulty its far harder than mindless grinding , u obviously cannot comprehend , its about how tiresome it is , its quite opposite people who play Diablo 4 have lower IQ on average, give them something to sit ,plan ,read and think and execute masterful strategic plan is a whole different story, Its true i feel im losing brain cells because these type of games fry your brain , one becomes like an automated drone and machine press few clicks and killing thousands mobs, when i see clips of people clearing dungeons with ball sorcerer and just looking obsessively at screen they appear like ghouls, u are made yourself look stupid

People who play these type of games inevitably become limited and dull , your brain gets used to it, especially if overdo it.

YOur average Diablo fan would get lost and frustrated in any game that requires complex tactical planning, reading and solving puzzles.

7 years old can finish Diablo ,why would anyone bother and force themselve sto play if they do not enjoy it. This community is garbage in general u are one of the countless examples

Those who enjoy standard FPS games, Diablo, or WoW MMO grinding show low signs of intelligence , its inevitable.
Last edited by wrwerewrewrw; Nov 27, 2023 @ 5:58am
How much hours the fun last? hope that can last until 68 hours
Inuyaki Nov 27, 2023 @ 6:01am 
Originally posted by TeamMinthara:
7 years old can finish Diablo ,why would anyone bother and force themselve sto play if they do not enjoy it. This community is garbage in general u are one of the countless examples
So you are saying a 7 year old can finish Diablo, but you with your tactical genius cannot manage to make a build that kills mobs in a normal time?
Whatever you wanna say about complex or easy or whatever, you LITERALLY admitted you couldn't make a build work at level 68.

Paragon trees are complex enough to not be too dull and there is some build complexity, which is satisfying enough.
Is it as complex as PoE (or rather PoB)? No. Does it have to be? Also no. If I wanna play that, I do that (like every league start for the last 10 years).
But let's be real, most PoE players only use guides, because it's TOO complex. So with that the game doesn't even have any complexity left for them, because following a guide is "dull" again I guess.

Edit:
Also regarding your edit.
Right now I enjoy D4 more than PoE.
I have an IQ around 140-170, studied maths and work in IT.
Having FUN in a game has nothing to do with high or low intelligence or whatever. It's subjective. If you don't have fun here, then that's just the way it is. Not because you are "too intelligent" (or "too dumb" idk)
Last edited by Inuyaki; Nov 27, 2023 @ 6:04am
bullerbuller7 Nov 27, 2023 @ 6:46am 
Originally posted by opAw←G:
You prolly are doing something wrong, my rogue had little to no problem at all, breezed through torment 4. Follow a guide and get all the necessary aspects for your build.
Great, even less brainpower required.
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Date Posted: Nov 27, 2023 @ 1:30am
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