D4 is so bad

[Sh4rKyZz]

the trial version doesnt let you use local chat, in the first town there is a quest that you cannot complete because of this
also the lack of skill variation compared to D3 is sad, this game is a straight downgrade and it took them how long to come up with this? 10+ years?
what a joke company has blizzard become, they deserve all the negative reviews, keep it going like this and the game will be 80% off on the winter sale

[Daffy]

Messaggio originale di KaosReigns:

Messaggio originale di Daffy:

Stuff said

1) I dont actually know how to answer this one, because I dont play Barbs, ever. I shouldnt have to play a certain class to feel OP at level 10 Tier 1...

well you are in luck this is the S tier list of the current season


S Tier

Ball Lightning Sorc
HotA Barb
Upheaval Barb
Double Swing Barb
Walking Arsenal Barb
Werewolf Tornado Druid
Infinimist Necro
Pulverize Druid
Bone Spear Necro
Twisting Blades Rogue
Stormclaw Druid
Penetrating Shot Rogue
Arc Lash Sorc

https://maxroll.gg/d4/tierlists/endgame-tier-list

All able to clear everything in the current game including Tier 100 NM dungeons and all end bosses.

[Las Lesbianas Son El Futuro]

D4 is already at 40% discount because the core playerbase is basically dead and the game is out for less than ONE YEAR, Blizzard never did this... That alone shows how trash this game is compared to its predecessors, people defending the game doesn't even have 60 hours of playtime considering its an ARPG

[Nicky.MLG]

Messaggio originale di Nicko:

Messaggio originale di Sh4rKyZz:

the trial version doesnt let you use local chat, in the first town there is a quest that you cannot complete because of this
also the lack of skill variation compared to D3 is sad, this game is a straight downgrade and it took them how long to come up with this? 10+ years?
what a joke company has blizzard become, they deserve all the negative reviews, keep it going like this and the game will be 80% off on the winter sale :story:

I would have bought at 50-60%, but best they could come-up with is 40%. See them next sale I guess. Probably still will be 40% next sale. So I'll wait again. Since the initial prices are so inflated, even buying at 50-60% would rub me the wrong way. Considering there's also micro-transactions within the game.

And considering the users' feedback about the game's lack of depth too.

And remember that there is already an expansion announced for next year, so you will need to pay another 50+ eurs if you want to do the endgame in less than a year.

40 eur for a deprecated game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I would buy it if it was like 20 or so, but not for 40.

[UnDreamer]

Messaggio originale di Las Lesbianas Son El Futuro:

D4 is already at 40% discount because the core playerbase is basically dead and the game is out for less than ONE YEAR, Blizzard never did this... That alone shows how trash this game is compared to its predecessors, people defending the game doesn't even have 60 hours of playtime considering its an ARPG

None of its predecessors had such predatory microtransactions. I assume after scam called "Diablo-Immortal" Blizard decide that everything is OK.

[FhqwhTODD]

Messaggio originale di Simulation:

Their's maybe at most, 3 quest that involve emotes.

In act 1 alone there are 3. There's more in the other acts. Emotes can be used for other things as well but nothing really helpful. It's a terrible feature to begin with.

[GigaPimp, The Nefarious]

so you're comparing a live service game that came out a few months ago, to a live service game that had a decade to add new content and build upon itself. Also wtf "waah waah i cant complete a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ little quest where you have to emote in this trial version of the game" what a stupid ass complaint

[Dr.Acula]

Messaggio originale di Janitor Scruffy:

so you're comparing a live service game that came out a few months ago, to a live service game that had a decade to add new content and build upon itself. Also wtf "waah waah i cant complete a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ little quest where you have to emote in this trial version of the game" what a stupid ass complaint

You do know that D4 is a direct follow up of D3 and the devs should've learned lessons from problems D3 had at the start. But they made almost the same stupid mistakes again and added new ones as well while not using and evolving content they had in D3 seasons.

[KaosReigns]

Messaggio originale di frrr_milvusz:

Stuff said.

1) You never feel strong.

This is objective, not subjective at all. You literally are always the same level if not a bit lower than all the mobs.

2) It is a bad thing, WHEN COMPARED to the predecessors, which most people are doing, because THAT is what makes D4 objectively bad.... I kinda figured youd realize that without it needing to be said, but my mistake there.

Doesnt matter what you like, THAT is subjective. I am not saying that I like procedural better or less, what im saying is due to the map being static, its objectively worse, regardless of personal opinion.

6) Watch more Diablo content. That is literally the reason given by Blizzard themselves... So, even when its from the horses mouth, the info is still not good enough?

Blizzard said, the reason this game is more gritty and made the way it is, was to conform more to a realistic approach. At that time, this is why they said there would be no Cow Level.

The outcry from that, forced them to change that, and add in a Cow Level (supposedly), we will see in time. Point is, BLIZZARD said that, nobody is making a claim, its simply fact. The bad decison, was them choosing to go the "More realistic route" nothing to do with the cow level itself.

No, I dont get what you mean, because most of what you are saying is simply trying to bait me into some sort of weird discussion. Well, you are wasting your time, because there is nothing you can say to make me change my view on this game. My personal view, is that is trash by far worse than D3 was in its initial state, and honestly, im getting sick of people defending this game, that is more like Diablo Immortal, than Diablo 3.

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

Messaggio originale di Sh4rKyZz:

the trial version doesnt let you use local chat, in the first town there is a quest that you cannot complete because of this
also the lack of skill variation compared to D3 is sad, this game is a straight downgrade and it took them how long to come up with this? 10+ years?
what a joke company has blizzard become, they deserve all the negative reviews, keep it going like this and the game will be 80% off on the winter sale :story:

The game is an afterthought. Marketing needed a game where people who have autism, bad spending habits, or too much money will purchase whatever is added to the game IE horse armor. I'm having fun on hardcore, because the risk of death is fun. So far it hasn't done anything new.

[Nhika]

Blizzard isn't 100% stupid when it comes to RMT tactics when they release a F2P trial lol

[Mimi Moony]

Messaggio originale di KaosReigns:

1) You never feel strong.
This is objective, not subjective at all. You literally are always the same level if not a bit lower than all the mobs.

1) The word "feel" is literally in there. Being the same level as the mobs does not automatically say anything about how powerful one will feel. You gotta differentiate.

Messaggio originale di KaosReigns:

2) It is a bad thing, WHEN COMPARED to the predecessors, which most people are doing, because THAT is what makes D4 objectively bad.... I kinda figured youd realize that without it needing to be said, but my mistake there.

Doesnt matter what you like, THAT is subjective. I am not saying that I like procedural better or less, what im saying is due to the map being static, its objectively worse, regardless of personal opinion.

2) Ok, there’s a lot to unpack here, again. But you’re right, why should I waste even more of my time?

6) Ok, my bad, I don’t know what exactly they said. But then still, cow level is an easter egg, which doesn’t impact most of the game.

Messaggio originale di KaosReigns:

No, I dont get what you mean, because most of what you are saying is simply trying to bait me into some sort of weird discussion. Well, you are wasting your time, because there is nothing you can say to make me change my view on this game. My personal view, is that is trash by far worse than D3 was in its initial state, and honestly, im getting sick of people defending this game, that is more like Diablo Immortal, than Diablo 3.

Wonder who’s really "baiting" here … Whatever.
I’m not trying to change your *personal* view of the game, I’m really not. I’m just saying, the points you’re bringing up don’t really back the claim of being "objective". You can just share your criticism or opinion, without packaging it in a false objectivity, which is just supposed to make your argument unimpeachable.

[Mimi Moony]

Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:

The game is an afterthought. Marketing needed a game where people who have autism, bad spending habits, or too much money will purchase whatever is added to the game IE horse armor. I'm having fun on hardcore, because the risk of death is fun. So far it hasn't done anything new.

What does autism have to do with it?

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

Messaggio originale di frrr_milvusz:

Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:

The game is an afterthought. Marketing needed a game where people who have autism, bad spending habits, or too much money will purchase whatever is added to the game IE horse armor. I'm having fun on hardcore, because the risk of death is fun. So far it hasn't done anything new.

What does autism have to do with it?

It's a targeted demographic. It is immoral.

[Mimi Moony]

Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:

Messaggio originale di frrr_milvusz:

What does autism have to do with it?

It's a targeted demographic. It is immoral.

Uhm, that’s what you implied earlier, yes. But how? Why? Any explanation?

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

Messaggio originale di frrr_milvusz:

Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:

It's a targeted demographic. It is immoral.

Uhm, that’s what you implied earlier, yes. But how? Why? Any explanation?

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