Anyone annoyed by the seasonal achievements?

[Lee]

I don't want to babysit world bosses. I actually like this game, but I don't like this MMO type thing "go defeat a world boss or do this event x times" ♥♥♥♥. I'm on when I can be on. I'm almost 40 here, and want to just grind the ♥♥♥♥ out of dungeons and meticulously deal with my build. I don't want to be screwing with world boss timers and ♥♥♥♥. Just curious, how you guys feel. I would really appreciate if they removed this kind of ♥♥♥♥ from the seasonal journey.

[Neithan]

I think it is fine, the 3 month you got in a season are plenty of time to just casually do the bosses when they show up, and quite alot of those journey steps will be achieved just by playing and advancing in the game.

The only season journey missions I am a bit miffed about are the PvP ones, but then they are actually quite easy if you put up the dedication/time or just try to cheese it during low-pop times and xplay disabled. For the kills, you can just seek someone to trade with them.

Anyway, you can just ignore 2 missions in each journey step to reach the end, only total completionists would care about finishing everything, and those guys are usually dedicated enough to put in the work.

[Lee]

Buddy, it's "plenty of time", but it's on their schedule, not mine. I played 100 hours of D4 during the release season, but by the time I got to world boss stuff I was already too late. It's not about for me, being a completionist. It's more about, look at how far I got, but having a time table to do these things is kind of annoying. I get that you're fine with it and I don't wanna beef, but I'm really not. I don't want to set aside a specific time period for a game when I have mine already, it's at night during this time. I'm trying to date and do stuff. I don't think getting rid of time oriented stuff would be a big loss for the game, but it would be a big gain for people like me.

Anyway I don't want this to be vitriolic and i appreciate your non-inflamatory response.

[potato]

i dunno, it's diablo and it's live service, meant to be a timesink

[Neithan]

Well, you are definetly right with some of the (end)game content being locked to a shedule, like world bosses or helltides, but then, they already improved on that due to community feedback.

So I would say it is possible they will further "improve" on the casual-friendlyness and cut-back on time-gating even more in the future.

But as it is now, I'd say it should already suffice for most players to accomplish those objectives at a reasonable investment.

[Lee]

Escrito originalmente por potato:

i dunno, it's diablo and it's live service, meant to be a timesink

well it's not about it being a "time sink" everything is a time sink it's about it being a time sink on their time. like i, as a grown man, do not want to pay attention to when their world bosses are up. do you get that? can you understand why i wouldn't like that. i have a lot of time, but i dont' have "their time" get it?

Escrito originalmente por Neithan:

Well, you are definetly right with some of the (end)game content being locked to a shedule, like world bosses or helltides, but then, they already improved on that due to community feedback.

So I would say it is possible they will further "improve" on the casual-friendlyness and cut-back on time-gating even more in the future.

But as it is now, I'd say it should already suffice for most players to accomplish those objectives at a reasonable investment.

okay. I think you may be ignoring guys like me who play other games too. sure if this was your only jam then yeah of course you could make time, but it's not for me. but i could go back and play d2 or d3 and not have an issue. do you get it?

i don't think you guys are stupid and i'm not trying to be rude, but i simply do not want to fight world bosses on a schedule to finish a season, period. you can view this as irrational or rational, but i think it's rational. I would prefer they remove these things from the seasonal journey

[potato]

Escrito originalmente por Lee:

well it's not about it being a "time sink" everything is a time sink it's about it being a time sink on their time. like i, as a grown man, do not want to pay attention to when their world bosses are up. do you get that? can you understand why i wouldn't like that. i have a lot of time, but i dont' have "their time" get it?

uh... i dunno what you want us to do about it, nobody here can change the game to what you want it to be

if you want to submit feedback you have to do it here:

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/320848

get it?

[Neithan]

Escrito originalmente por Lee:

okay. I think you may be ignoring guys like me who play other games too.

Sorry, no offense (or maybe a little? :P), but compared to "I don't have the time due to job/family/reallife", your reasoning is amongst the most stupid I ever heard...

So you complain, that a game having you to apply to a (generous) schedule to achieve some things prevents you from playing other games?

How about you learn to set personal priorities and not get all flustered about not getting all and everything at once and for free?

How about not getting agitated over feeling like a game could dictate how you spend your time?

And last but not least, what is it with this new generation of gamers that think just owning a game entitles to beat every aspect of it, regardless of skill or investment? I mean, back in the day (being born 1980), I had no problem with games being ultra hard in general, or having scaleable difficulty, with modes dedicated to just the top 1% of hardcore gamers.

The term "Achievement" actually has a meaning (or should have).

[Black Hole]

The ultra hard games of the old times though are way different to todays ultra hard games.

If this was more like d2r I think more would like it.

[VhagarTheLastOne]

Diablo 4 needs more time, Ive heard Season 3 patch is first big update, its quite obvious Diablo 4 was rushed out.

[Black Hole]

I think this game is running out of time to improve to get people back or in at this point.

Seems this game was designed for youtubers and not the fans that have played this game since diablo was a thing.

[😎Astran😾]

I've finished all but the last tier organically, in couple weeks. Last tier took some hassle: Lilith and L90 dungeon took about 10 tries each (ball-lightning sorc), the rest was easy (I've skipped grindy ones - 5 glyphs to L21 and 10 boxes during single blood-tide)

[FhqwhTODD]

Once I noticed that worldbosses drop max level gear on T4 they were on top of my list anyways. I just wish they would spawn much more often. A lot more often to be honest.

Seasonal goals in D3 were a lot more annoying since you had to achieve them all.
The PVP currency for the last step I usually get in a low level anyways. Getting the kills is a lot harder since nobody except level 100 players seem to be playing the PVP content.

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[All Day I Dream About🪓]

I am not a fan of achievements being locked by timegated activities like in most mmo games, but it really is not that big of a deal in D4. World bosses spawn fairly often like couple times a day and they usually killed within a minute if there is op ball lightning sorc or hota barb with you. If you have time to grind the ♥♥♥♥ out of dungeons then it should not be a problem to check your map once in a while to see if world boss spawns. Plus it got its own uses like guaranteed drop of 925 gear that can push your char a bit unless you already have bis gear.

[Neithan]

https://helltides.com/

A great site to check on worldbosses, helltides and legion event times and places.

Even with only a couple of hours per day, using that site should help you time the occasional boss or helltide to make progress on them.