Diablo® IV
A reminder of what 2023 games look like
I was flabbergasted when Diablo 4 came out and hordes of people were saying it looked great. Even with a zoom-level that draws less than 1% of objects on the screen, it still looks two generations older than what we see in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayeQ3CTLlMU
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If that video didn't show a dozen "progress pride" flags a minute, either that's not real spiderman 2 gameplay or it's the middle-east version.
It's good enough for me to purchase $30 BDSM rogue costume in D4 and enjoy it :lunar2019grinningpig: Unlike in the obsolete 10 years old Path of Exile graphics, for example.
I see the same game, with the same graphics and animations. Plebstation fanboy detected. Btw it says 60fps but it feels like 30. lol
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Astran:
It's good enough for me to purchase $30 BDSM rogue costume in D4 and enjoy it :lunar2019grinningpig: Unlike in the obsolete 10 years old Path of Exile graphics, for example.

People have their preferences. Clearly graphics make the game for you, this is your game then for sure. Its true they ruin it all zooming in too far.

Eventually you clear the campaign and get to experience one of the dullest ARPG games out there. Then games like POE start to look good.
I'm more stunned how much the game is simply devoid of color.
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I'm more stunned how much the game is simply devoid of color.

It's the zoom level for me, that alone makes D4 the worst in its genre ever since Diablo 1 launched. You'd think that at least by making the screen comically small they'd have good graphics since there is so little for the machine to draw but it still looks worse than an open-world game from the same year, same price, that can draw literally kilometets-worth of dense, living city-scape while at the same time running laps around D4 in fidelity and visual appeal.

This game truly is Diablo 3-and-half. Yet another astounding let down by Blizzard.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από tukkek; 2 Νοε 2023, 11:11
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I was flabbergasted when Diablo 4 came out and hordes of people were saying it looked great. Even with a zoom-level that draws less than 1% of objects on the screen, it still looks two generations older than what we see in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayeQ3CTLlMU

There are a million games out there that, graphically, make Diablo 4 look bad.

The worst thing about Diablo 4, is the zoomed in view, though. It kills the ability to view the environment, so regardless of how well it's rendered you only see a small part of it, as you mention.
Can't wait for the $200 "Zoom Out hotkey" DLC to come out with season 19 :monstertrainhaha:
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I'm more stunned how much the game is simply devoid of color.

I was going to try a reshade, but wasn't sure if that would get picked up as an exploit and result in a ban. I was able to add some contrast and bump up the shadows a bit (edit to add: with the GeForce overlay tools), while adding some sharpening, but still looks pretty washed out. Pretty annoying actually with how easy it is to miss containers.

Graphic quality compares to Divine Divinity 2 and other games of that era, so pretty disappointing. I'm not big graphics guy, but I think I got a better gameplay out of Grim Dawn for a less with better graphics (and that one you can mod away at it for the SP campaign so no restrictions there).

The zoom level is pretty ridiculous as well, but holy heck is everything pretty monochomatic. Even the colour palettes on the costumes are dull.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Canucklehead79; 2 Νοε 2023, 12:54
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I was flabbergasted when Diablo 4 came out and hordes of people were saying it looked great. Even with a zoom-level that draws less than 1% of objects on the screen, it still looks two generations older than what we see in this video:
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D4 is a hybrid MMO/Mp-ARPG in a dark, dystopic fantasy, setting. It's not a "beauty-shot, SP, story-based QTE/ARPG" within an inorganic flat-world. Spiderman HAS to have those big screenshot moments to sell it. It's a godray-sales marketed game that's got a Marvel label on it with a hit movie IP to fill in the blanks if a tree looks anemic.

D4's draw/scrrenspace make sense. Why? It's got to load everything seamlessly, so that could be fifty-eleven different transmogs fed by xx number of players at the same time, plus the spell effects, plus whoever or whatever walks by, dynamics, tracking damage/effects real-time from everything in the cell, and keep all that stuff updated constantly so it all doesn't fall apart "live" in the middle of a fight. Oh, and all in an online unified platform environment, too, ya know.

I'm no apologist for Blizz/D4. It still chokes, has cell update issues, a gameloop that is horribly designed for a Diablo product, crap-all itemization, copy/pasted animations, limited dynamic game content, and ridiculous supporting architecture that NEEDLESSLY forces the developers to compromise other features.

Why not complain about meaningful things instead of nonsense? Too hard?

Some of the things people complain about due to just willful ignorance is plain getting out of hand. There are legitimate beefs with this game, but they do not include "zoom" level, graphics, or the lack of HDRI color-popping anime ribbons.

PS: Better watch out, though - That vid almost had seven enemies on the screen at once! Whew, close call!
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Morkonan; 2 Νοε 2023, 13:28
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I was going to try a reshad but wasn't sure if that would get picked up as an exploit

We can add "no off-line mode" (and therefore no modding) to the list of reasons why D4 is one of the worst games in the genre - the genre its franchise pioneered too, which is so very sad.

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Grim Dawn

My favorite game of all time, I'm a thousand hours in and added a couple more to it today even :steamhappy: sadly, I can't recommend it to anyone looking for great graphics but hey if you want great single-player gameplay, it runs laps around Diablo 4 in every single way.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από tukkek; 2 Νοε 2023, 17:10
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It's good enough for me to purchase $30 BDSM rogue costume in D4 and enjoy it :lunar2019grinningpig: Unlike in the obsolete 10 years old Path of Exile graphics, for example.

People have their preferences. Clearly graphics make the game for you, this is your game then for sure. Its true they ruin it all zooming in too far.

Eventually you clear the campaign and get to experience one of the dullest ARPG games out there. Then games like POE start to look good.
You haven't tried S2 apparently. It's the most fun I've ever had in aRPGs (except for city patrols gameplay in Marvel Heroes), literally cannot stop playing it even though I have about 20 games installed. Last time I've had so much fun was Assassin's Creed Odyssey release 6 years ago.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από 😎Astran😾; 2 Νοε 2023, 19:01
The level of cope in some of the posts here - game is literally 50%-rated on Steam and 20% on Metacrtic yet they talking like it's GOTY! :monstertrainhaha: Peak Blizzard-boy delusion.

I wonder who's coping harder that their tanked garbage corporate scam is GOTY right now: Diablo 3.5/10 dummies or Starfailed dummies?
You sound terminally online, please find a new hobby
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