Diablo 4 isnt bad, it just gets boring at endgame

[ShaneyD]

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I dont understand how people think the game is just plain bad.

[Tenamil]

for me the game got really boring mid game.

[Kmany]

Its fun, but it does get boring later on.
Still worth to play if you like games in this genre.

[Unknown Entity]

Thats the worst part. It has no equal in gameplay. Its worse then drug. U just wont go up in rpg, character progressing or in RL, playing this at lvl 100 will also get u laughed at by others in game also=(

[E equals M C squared]

Grim Dawn is much more boring if you think D4 is boring, such game genre is only good when you are mashing at hard level, and re-role builds from scratch.

[Drakoviche]

Unfortately in a game like diablo, the end game is the whole game. No one cares about a campaign, they beat the campaign to get to the end game. They people at Diablo are just shoot themselves in the foot at this point. What a joke of a game. Would refund if I could.

[LOL]

If the campaign was good it would be fun. If the end game was good it would be fun. The issue of it being boring stems from the game fundementally not being fun. If this was released with a different name and not by Blizzard this forum and the game would be empty.

[😎Astran😾]

This is a necro thread started around/before the beginning of S2 when the game was boring. And then S2 has made the game very fun and it is constantly improving since then

[LOL]

It's still widely considered boring. All you have now are the people that felt bad about wasting $60, sticking around for a year and saying 'hey things have changed' in an attempt to make themselves feel better about sticking around. Most of the people that are honest with themselves return for a few moments, see nothing has really made the game fun or expanded on the endgame in a meaningful way, and then just walk away without saying anything.

Even the prominent content creators know there is no point in beating a dead horse. For example asmongold came back to check out the season 4, he left in less than a day. He believed there was no point in making videos about it because the game is still boring and he already made 10 videos discussing why last year.

Have there been improvements? Yes. Have there been meaningful improvements? No.

The only reason you can convince yourself that it is fun now is because of stockholm syndrome. This game is filled with people feeling bad about being ripped off and they are collectively committing to an echo chamber of like-minded people. Anyone willing to be honest left a year ago and knows how hopeless it is to talk someone out of stockholm syndrome.

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by ShaneyD:

Diablo 4 isnt bad, it just gets boring at endgame

I dont understand how people think the game is just plain bad.

D4's release and just about everything up to Season 4 was "bad." A lot of what you may be seeing are players who were so disenfranchised that they just quit playing, but are still upset. :) (I was one of those, but gave Season 4 and it's changes a chance and I am now glad I did.)

S4 made radical changes across the board and now the game is "not bad." It's actually decent to good through leveling up to the 80's or so, maybe further if you're enjoying your class's build, and just past leveling up Glyphs to 21. After that, it's a bit grindy in hunting for gear upgrades and hitting the "Masterworking" cycle, where you farm the Pit... if you have gear worth Masterworking. :)


BUT...

Diablo has always been a franchise that is about "class builds." Once the player is past world difficult stages and hitting deep into leveling mechanics and gear hunting, the routine, normal, choice for a player that may find they're not having as much fun, anymore, is to... roll a new class and a different sort of class build...

That is, in a nutshell, not just the Diablo play loop, but what many ARPG games have worked into their gameplay.

So, when you're not as satisfied and you're not getting those big progression advancement feedback hits, you start considering playing a different character with new mechanics. You start again, leveling up a new character, experience new mechanics, encounters you have to deal with differently, new gear, new meaningful uniques, new abilities that mean your actual playstyle is different, etc..

IMO, a lot of the people who think it is still as bad as it was may not enjoy the idea of re-rolling and playing a new character in order to obtain new ways to get the progression and gameplay feedback they want.

Note: D4 still has some issues in its gameplay loop. Notably, the end-game gearing process, a lack of varied end-game activities to engage with, some issues with crafting and, certainly, the end-game "economy," etc. But, there are some gameplay content additions coming with Season 5 and we have yet to see what, exactly, the new expansion will bring with its new class/region.

[LOL]

Another "wait for next season to make it better" post. I'll be honest, I tried season 4. It was even more boring. I dropped out at level 40 because I literally 1 shot groups of every mob. There is no challenge, no mechanical play, and I'm loaded with OP legendaries and yellows at 40. At least when I played season 3 I had to dodge an attack once every hour or so. This is literally cookie clicker now.

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by LOL:

Another "wait for next season to make it better" post.

It's "better," now. Next Season will come with content additions, which have to be included in any discussion that involves where the gameplay may go...

I'll be honest, I tried season 4. It was even more boring. I dropped out at level 40 because I literally 1 shot groups of every mob. There is no challenge, no mechanical play, and I'm loaded with OP legendaries and yellows at 40. At least when I played season 3 I had to dodge an attack once every hour or so. This is literally cookie clicker now.

40?

Well, your NIC is appropriate... You think that leveling to 40 exposes you to the gameplay so you can make an informed decision?

There's a heck of a lot of progression to do past level 100. It IS focused on perfecting gear and Masterworking it so one can push "The Pit" content, though.

But, you didn't even get to the point where you could see that on the horizon of your gameplay.


You don't have to like the game. Any gamer should be just fine with you not enjoying the gameplay. That's cool. We all have our preferences. But, to pass such critical judgement based on such a tiny, limited, gameplay experience without even coming close to seeing "the game" is just disingenuous.

Again - You don't have to like the game. But, if you're going to declare your opinion to be worthy of consideration, you need to make an informed one.

[LOL]

I already have a level 100 character. The content at 100 was more boring than the content leveling. Half of the reason it was so boring at 100 was because I had so much good equipment that literally autocasted my entire rotation to the point I could clear everything without touching my keyboard.

I could waste a few more hours insta-wiping the screen with all my legendaries at 40 like vampire survivors to get to 100, but I seriously think you are full of it when saying the game is suddenly good now at 100. It was horrible last season, and now leveling is even worse than before.

[Kevfactor]

I feel the main problem is a blizzard problem in general. THey never produce enough content for their games. Overwatch could still be a thing if they just made content for it. WoW the expansions were ready within a year easy they wanted to market it up more and try to make bad systems to keep people playing(which they didnt hehe). Diablo the problem is we are on season 4 and the game feels like it did when it released but feels a bit more fixed. Then you look at what is coming up and it's like they copied the worst League Mechanic form poe but ina phone game type of way hehe. Like they really need to stop holding content back fromt he expansions and release something really good every 3-4 months for people to stick around.

[LOL]

This is the problem when you only hire graphic designers and architects for a video game. You get a nice looking nest of bugs with no redeeming value.

[Cubez]

I miss the fun stuff from previous games like the cow level in D2, unicorn level in D3 & goblin treasure cave etc. Wish some cool stuff like that would be added to D4.

It’s not a bad game, it’s just fairly average. They played it very safe, and in doing so lost new creative elements that could have been added. Understandably its a risk, but you gotta innovate to keep things fresh.