Why Turn-Based if it's an MMO?

[Licht Knight of the Undead]

A video game that's turn-based and offline does make perfect logical sense, but, in an MMO? Seriously? I don't get it.

[Tsuru]

What dont you get exactly?

Wakfu/dofus have been turn based mmos and have been huge successes.

[Hamas Militant]

Turn based/tactical/grid-based is a good system, if you want a real time or tab targetting traditional MMO like WOW then go play games like that? People like me appreciate and like a grid-based turn-based combat system. It's also different at least. Waven isn't much of an classic MMO either, more of an MMO arena game with PVE and PVP.

Ankama's previous games in the universe the game is set have also been turn-based MMOs, more MMO-like than Waven will be but still.

[Mercurial Obscurial]

Too many people conflate mmos and mmorpgs. Also, at a glance I didn't see anything in the description that states the game is an mmo.

[Pooh]

Originally posted by Tsuru:

What dont you get exactly?

Wakfu/dofus have been turn based mmos and have been huge successes.

"Huge".

This is a very obscure IP operated by a French team with zero non-FR communication skills. I've been playing Wakfu since 2012 and I have yet, to this very day, encounter someone randomly and be able to chat about Wakfu or Dofus.

They're very greedy when it comes to microtransactions on-top of it being turn-based. So yeah, not sure about the whole 'huge' thing.

[Mikitsune]

Originally posted by Pooh:

Originally posted by Tsuru:

What dont you get exactly?

Wakfu/dofus have been turn based mmos and have been huge successes.

"Huge".

This is a very obscure IP operated by a French team with zero non-FR communication skills. I've been playing Wakfu since 2012 and I have yet, to this very day, encounter someone randomly and be able to chat about Wakfu or Dofus.

They're very greedy when it comes to microtransactions on-top of it being turn-based. So yeah, not sure about the whole 'huge' thing.

Not gonna argue about communication part, but greedy? I played wakfu decent amount. Never reached the end game, but even then i bough bunch of cosmetics from auction house with in-game currency and never i encountered an area or feature that was hard limited from me. So i'm genuinely interested what is so greedy about them?

[Trichouette]

That's the thing, it's not an MMO

[justdrop]

Originally posted by Trichouette:

That's the thing, it's not an MMO

Finally moved away from claiming it's p2w after the admin responded to you, huh?

[Trichouette]

Originally posted by justdrop:

Originally posted by Trichouette:

That's the thing, it's not an MMO

Finally moved away from claiming it's p2w after the admin responded to you, huh?

I never called it pay to win.
A PvE game cannot be paid to win but rather "pay to skip" which is fine as long as it's not required.
They said it won't be one of those, we'll see in a few days.

Also, did you really make a completely off topic post just to mock me ?

[Tsuru]

Originally posted by Pooh:

Originally posted by Tsuru:

What dont you get exactly?

Wakfu/dofus have been turn based mmos and have been huge successes.

"Huge".

This is a very obscure IP operated by a French team with zero non-FR communication skills. I've been playing Wakfu since 2012 and I have yet, to this very day, encounter someone randomly and be able to chat about Wakfu or Dofus.

They're very greedy when it comes to microtransactions on-top of it being turn-based. So yeah, not sure about the whole 'huge' thing.

Not sure where you've b een playing. When both those games came out, there were tons of players. Each area that you went to had multiple fights, and or people hanging around and doing fights or waiting for spawns.

I mean sure, as the time went on those number massively fell, but people move on. Ive came back to it a number of times, but while the areas werent hugely crowded, there were still many people playing.

Even now checking charts, they get anywhere from 5-10k players daily. So there are still fans of the series playing quite actively.

[Trichouette]

Originally posted by Tsuru:

Originally posted by Pooh:

"Huge".

This is a very obscure IP operated by a French team with zero non-FR communication skills. I've been playing Wakfu since 2012 and I have yet, to this very day, encounter someone randomly and be able to chat about Wakfu or Dofus.

They're very greedy when it comes to microtransactions on-top of it being turn-based. So yeah, not sure about the whole 'huge' thing.

Not sure where you've b een playing. When both those games came out, there were tons of players. Each area that you went to had multiple fights, and or people hanging around and doing fights or waiting for spawns.

I mean sure, as the time went on those number massively fell, but people move on. Ive came back to it a number of times, but while the areas werent hugely crowded, there were still many people playing.

Even now checking charts, they get anywhere from 5-10k players daily. So there are still fans of the series playing quite actively.

Where did you get 5-10k players daily ?
Wakfu on steam has 100-300 players daily, and we have 0 info about the number of players from the ankama launcher
We also have 0 info about dofus player count.

As much as I love wakfu, and come back to it like once a year, the game is definitely not in a good shape.

[Pooh]

Originally posted by Tsuru:

Originally posted by Pooh:

"Huge".

This is a very obscure IP operated by a French team with zero non-FR communication skills. I've been playing Wakfu since 2012 and I have yet, to this very day, encounter someone randomly and be able to chat about Wakfu or Dofus.

They're very greedy when it comes to microtransactions on-top of it being turn-based. So yeah, not sure about the whole 'huge' thing.

Not sure where you've b een playing. When both those games came out, there were tons of players. Each area that you went to had multiple fights, and or people hanging around and doing fights or waiting for spawns.

I mean sure, as the time went on those number massively fell, but people move on. Ive came back to it a number of times, but while the areas werent hugely crowded, there were still many people playing.

Even now checking charts, they get anywhere from 5-10k players daily. So there are still fans of the series playing quite actively.

As a player of Wakfu for 10 years, you're so wrong on just about everything you said.

[Tsuru]

Originally posted by Pooh:

Originally posted by Tsuru:

Not sure where you've b een playing. When both those games came out, there were tons of players. Each area that you went to had multiple fights, and or people hanging around and doing fights or waiting for spawns.

I mean sure, as the time went on those number massively fell, but people move on. Ive came back to it a number of times, but while the areas werent hugely crowded, there were still many people playing.

Even now checking charts, they get anywhere from 5-10k players daily. So there are still fans of the series playing quite actively.

As a player of Wakfu for 10 years, you're so wrong on just about everything you said.

Sorry your server you played on was "dead". Just because you say "was wrong" doesnt mean everyone had the same experience as you.

As for someone who played each of these games for a year from release. I can tell you, from my experience. I am right.

[Pooh]

Originally posted by Tsuru:

Originally posted by Pooh:

As a player of Wakfu for 10 years, you're so wrong on just about everything you said.

Sorry your server you played on was "dead". Just because you say "was wrong" doesnt mean everyone had the same experience as you.

As for someone who played each of these games for a year from release. I can tell you, from my experience. I am right.

You're probs a Remington player who has no idea what they're talking about, ngl.

[justdrop]

Originally posted by Trichouette:

Originally posted by justdrop:

Finally moved away from claiming it's p2w after the admin responded to you, huh?

I never called it pay to win.
A PvE game cannot be paid to win but rather "pay to skip" which is fine as long as it's not required.
They said it won't be one of those, we'll see in a few days.

Also, did you really make a completely off topic post just to mock me ?

You did. I made a comment to point out how you jump from topic to topic complaining about non-issues.

[kmau]

Now this is just depressing.