Marvel Puzzle Quest

Marvel Puzzle Quest

lastbreath Nov 18, 2019 @ 9:20am
Is it only me or this shard system is slower than "favourite chance"?
From one point of view this system is better than random chance, because at the end you will get a cover 100%. But "favourite" chance was pretty high and as a result I got covers way faster. Sometimes I could get even two favourite covers at one day. Now compare it with shards, where you have to grind way way longer...

This system is good only for 5 stars, because they were VERY RARE last month or two
Last edited by lastbreath; Nov 18, 2019 @ 10:35pm
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lastbreath Nov 18, 2019 @ 9:55am 
So, legendary token gives you 15 shards for a 4* cover. 4* heroes need 400 shards. So, for 1 cover you need to take 26(!) legendary tokens. Previously, you could have at least 2 favourite covers for that amount of tries.

Here we go again... It was nice 2,5 years, but instead grind lowering developers made it even more devilish. Thanks but no. I'm out.
xViTx Nov 18, 2019 @ 1:04pm 
This is... disappointing
Dan Nov 18, 2019 @ 2:56pm 
Yeah... kinda sucks. They took some randomness out of the equation, but now it'll take frickin' forever to get those shards.

Meh... I already unfavorited all but 1 character from each tier. Otherwise it'll take forever sharing the shards across multiple characters.
Junglejim5 Nov 18, 2019 @ 8:40pm 
I'm yet to take note if it's good or bad with the better being my pick lol
ISeeUnicorns Nov 19, 2019 @ 2:14am 
I think this will actually benefit quite a few of my 4*s, since I have a bunch with 5 in at least one colour, and of course I keep drawing what is done, at least this way I can direct the shards towards Where I need the power. For 3*s it will definitely slow down characters I hadn't max champed yet, but I can see the benefit for some newer folks just trying to get their first version of some 3*s done. I have had JJ my 5* favourite ever since she has come out, shards or dropped covers it will take years for me to get all 13 anyway :D.
lastbreath Nov 19, 2019 @ 2:18am 
If only they added shard to Vaults also. But it's still too grindy. That "favourite" feature was the only solution toward players. All other 'improvements" including shards are pure :ShotGun_Weapon_Item:hit
tuxedojack Nov 20, 2019 @ 1:42pm 
Yeah, this will be my last month with VIP - the shards system sucks, Miss those bonus draws. What a bummer.
Handoiron Nov 20, 2019 @ 3:49pm 
As it is, it is slower than bonus heroes unless you spend tons of HP on the daily shards purchasing.

However, in the latest info link, they stated they'll be adding shard rewards to story events, shield level rewards and champion rewards as well as possibly more areas.

The hope is that with the still to be released sources, the shard system will be both faster and more reliable than the bonus cover system was.

The bonus hero system was roughly 1 in 20 draws randomly to get a random cover and as is, the shard system is roughly 1 in 23 draws guaranteed to get a chosen cover.

With more sources of shards, it should reach or even exceed the 1 in 20 threshold and be much more reliable than the pure randomness that was under the bonus hero system.
lastbreath Nov 21, 2019 @ 12:30am 
I don't know, maybe I'm so lucky but I got bonus heroes pretty often. Especially 3*.

What is really rare - 5* heroes. I spent near 30 legendary tokens and got only one 5* cover. This is ridiculous!
Handoiron Nov 21, 2019 @ 9:23am 
3*s were weird -- they come from the most tokens, so you see them the most often of the bonus hero capable rarity and on top of that, the standard token chances for 3* returns matched the bonus hero chance and they were the only possible bonus heroes from standard tokens so every 3* from a standard token granted a bonus hero. It was still the 1 in 20 chance, just that you got to see it so often with how many standard tokens you got.

Effectively, you saw so many 3* bonus heroes just because 3*s were more common than 4* and 5*. With the shard system, it will be similar because you will get more 3* shards than the others and it takes fewer shards to reach the bonus 3* cover.

If you turned in 30 leg tokens and only got 1 5* cover that was very bad luck. It should be 1 in 7 on average I think. If you meant you got 1 5* bonus cover in 30 leg tokens, that was very good luck because you should have only seen 1 5* bonus cover in roughly 120 leg tokens before.

The upside to the shard system is that you make guaranteed progress towards that bonus cover from all of your regular token draws. Theoretically, you could get a bonus 5* cover even if you were the unluckiest person in the world and didn't get a single 5* from leg token turn ins for that entire time.

As I mentioned above, as it stands, looking purely at token turn ins, the rate at getting bonus covers is lower with the shard system than it was with the bonus hero system, but they are adding more sources to get shards than just token turn ins that should improve that rate.

I just hope they make the extra sources of shards give generic shards and not hero specific ones. Wouldn't be much use to have event "rewards" be 10 shards for a 3* hero you have no desire to build the other 290 shards for.
Last edited by Handoiron; Nov 21, 2019 @ 9:25am
lastbreath Nov 21, 2019 @ 9:32am 
No, I literally didn't see any 5* cover in two months already! This is BS
lastbreath Nov 22, 2019 @ 4:56am 
32... Still no 5* cover...
Last edited by lastbreath; Nov 22, 2019 @ 4:56am
lastbreath Nov 22, 2019 @ 8:14am 
33...
Dhaunas Nov 22, 2019 @ 4:15pm 
I just wish they'd have kept BH and let shards just be an additional way to help with dilution.

As far as BH, I'd always had good luck -- in the 2 weeks prior to shards being introduced I got 3 bonus 5*s (this is not the norm, but it was nice). I pulled a 3* from a standard token today, which in the past gave an automatic bonus hero... the 6 shards is a bit of a letdown... it would take 50 3* pulls from standard covers to earn 1 3* cover now, so that's 49 BHs that we miss out on (over time, of course).
Last edited by Dhaunas; Nov 22, 2019 @ 4:16pm
lastbreath Nov 22, 2019 @ 4:42pm 
So it's you who stole my 5* covers!!! :D:
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Date Posted: Nov 18, 2019 @ 9:20am
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