The Films: Thunderdome was just a bad dream, right?

[Jakkar]

Just a bad dream?

No, in truth it was, afaict, George Miller's confused mess while mourning for the death of a close friend and colleague. Sad time. Much drugs.

What about the others, though? I don't think I can deny, after three cinema trips, that Fury Road has surpassed the earlier films by a significant margin, but where do you stand on them?

For me, the original has always been the best - the strangest, most atmospheric and well-crafted story of a world in a sad decline, picked over by psychopaths while a few brave souls try to maintain peace and safety, and become mad themselves in the process as the world rots around them.

Road Warrior was a much simpler film - less camp, though still camp, less surreal though remaining strange, with some good ideas but no overall cohesion - and Max had become an utter arsehole by this point in his life. It would have worked better as a much shorter film, I can't help but feel.

And then there's the strange adopted child of the franchise, amounting to a big-budget, far more entertaining remake of Road Warrior: Waterworld.

Let the flaming begin, but I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ love that film. I'd love to see a game of it one day, somehow - very much in the style of this game - all about stealing, modifying and upgrading boats and exploring the great ocean, trading at atolls while fighting factions and exploring the deep cities.

Wouldn't you love to play a mutie on the infinite ocean?

[MonkeyHarris]

Автор сообщения: Cormoran

Автор сообщения: MonkeyHarris

oh yeah twitter #gates - the pinnacle of mainstream analysis and respectability

find a non social media source that actually has mainstream acceptance and/or journalistic integrity

Oh, you want their mainstream effects? Okay

#elevatorgate - broke american atheism in two
#killallmen - a vilification of all men , where feminists either claim it's a joke, or serious, at will. trying it the other way around results in it only being 'serious' and the feminists acting as victims. a common modern feminist tactic seen in all the other hashtags
#manspreading - new york enacted laws based on this.
#manslamming - a study based the aforementioned manspreading
#shirtgate - where feminists emotionally destroyed a man on what should have been the best day of his life because of the shirt he wore, a shirt made by a woman BTW.
#gamergate - a consumer revolt attacked by feminists in much the same way atheism was. this resulted in multiple news outlets following their narrative and even a SVU episode painting gamers as sexist terrorists.
#metalgate - where feminists tried the same ♥♥♥♥ but metalheads just grabbed their ♥♥♥♥♥ and told them to choke on it. Easily the best example on how to fight modern feminists.

yeah ok bye

[Cormoran]

Автор сообщения: MonkeyHarris

Автор сообщения: Cormoran

Oh, you want their mainstream effects? Okay

#elevatorgate - broke american atheism in two
#killallmen - a vilification of all men , where feminists either claim it's a joke, or serious, at will. trying it the other way around results in it only being 'serious' and the feminists acting as victims. a common modern feminist tactic seen in all the other hashtags
#manspreading - new york enacted laws based on this.
#manslamming - a study based the aforementioned manspreading
#shirtgate - where feminists emotionally destroyed a man on what should have been the best day of his life because of the shirt he wore, a shirt made by a woman BTW.
#gamergate - a consumer revolt attacked by feminists in much the same way atheism was. this resulted in multiple news outlets following their narrative and even a SVU episode painting gamers as sexist terrorists.
#metalgate - where feminists tried the same ♥♥♥♥ but metalheads just grabbed their ♥♥♥♥♥ and told them to choke on it. Easily the best example on how to fight modern feminists.

yeah ok bye

I figured you wouldn't listen. It's the same 'turn off my brain' reaction the religious get when their dogmas are tested.

[Mike]

Oh MonkeyHarris, another liberal idiot who can't see how stupid and brainwashed he is. In the year 2015, feminists are a hate group against men.

Shut up already.

[Accualy is Gooby]

I'd play that Waterworld game... (But not the SNES one, that one sucked balls.)

[Tig Ol' Bitties]

I'm the only person who hated Fury Road as far as I can tell. I'm just a stickler for story, plot and a film that actually has the titled character as its main protagonist.

That's just me.

[Wobb the Great and Terrible!!!!!]

Surpassed the other films?
Oh wait, you're under 30, right?
Anyone old enough to remember those movies when they came out will tell you they are far superior in every way.
I'm not saying I didn't like the new movie; it was very good. But mad max 1 is a phenomenal movie, and the second is just so awesome it doesn't even bear thinking about.
I watched the first movie on betamax. THAT'S how old I am. When it first came to video, which wasn't too long after it came out at the cinema to be honest. I was blown away.
The second I watched on VHS if memory serves. I wore out that VHS tape within 6 months.
This is back when movies were still able to surprise you. Going to the cinema wasn't a chore, filled with annoying people, massive prices and ridiculous no smoking policies and other anti-social crap.
Movies were magical back then.
That's why a new star wars movie was never going to recapture the original magic of those first three.
And it's why mad max and mad max 2 will never get a sequel to even rival them.

[Dog_in_Car]

Автор сообщения: TIG

I'm the only person who hated Fury Road as far as I can tell. I'm just a stickler for story, plot and a film that actually has the titled character as its main protagonist.

That's just me.

you might not have cared for the story or characters but there is no way you hated the action scenes...

[Tig Ol' Bitties]

Автор сообщения: nsdewitt

Автор сообщения: TIG

I'm the only person who hated Fury Road as far as I can tell. I'm just a stickler for story, plot and a film that actually has the titled character as its main protagonist.

That's just me.

you might not have cared for the story or characters but there is no way you hated the action scenes...

Of course not. They're outstanding.

I just can't appreciate those stunts and practical effects without a story. Fury Road is just a mess. I'm shocked that it got the reviews that I did but I'm assigning that partly to its feminist overtones in a time of politically correct media outlets.

[Nomadski]

Автор сообщения: wobbler

Surpassed the other films?
Oh wait, you're under 30, right?
Anyone old enough to remember those movies when they came out will tell you they are far superior in every way.
I'm not saying I didn't like the new movie; it was very good. But mad max 1 is a phenomenal movie, and the second is just so awesome it doesn't even bear thinking about.
I watched the first movie on betamax. THAT'S how old I am. When it first came to video, which wasn't too long after it came out at the cinema to be honest. I was blown away.
The second I watched on VHS if memory serves. I wore out that VHS tape within 6 months.
This is back when movies were still able to surprise you. Going to the cinema wasn't a chore, filled with annoying people, massive prices and ridiculous no smoking policies and other anti-social crap.
Movies were magical back then.
That's why a new star wars movie was never going to recapture the original magic of those first three.
And it's why mad max and mad max 2 will never get a sequel to even rival them.

I disagree. RW was absolutely brilliant, but MM has aged horrendously badly, its only rose tinted specs that make it the unbelievable film in your eyes.

FR was the perfect modern day MM film, sure Hardy is no Gibson, but it just never let up.

And I'm old.

It's all just opinion though, this is mine.

[Accualy is Gooby]

Автор сообщения: TIG

I'm the only person who hated Fury Road as far as I can tell. I'm just a stickler for story, plot and a film that actually has the titled character as its main protagonist.

That's just me.

Well, I didn't really hate it, as I was impressed that a film with that much action in it managed to keep me interested untill the end, but it definitely isn't my favourite. I was kind of disappointed in Max not having more input in the story as well. I mean, he has very little scenes by himself. Even when he goes out to blow up the pursuers when the truck gets stuck: everything he does, happens off screen. I mean, really?

[Jakkar]

Just dropping in to say, as the original poster, that you MRA-types utterly disgust me. Leave your infantile gender politics at the door, and for that matter, stay outside it.

Those of you keeping to the film-discussion, thank you =)

As for Max's depiction in Fury Road, surely you understand that he isn't actually Max Rockatansky? His flashbacks bear no resemblance to anything that happened to Max, he's too young, his appearance, manner, bodylanguage and so forth are entirely different to a degree that surpasses the simple change of actor, particularly such a skilled one.

It's another man who heard the story of the Road Warrior, and losing his family/loves/friends/past and blaming himself for it, lost himself - before deciding, in delusion and desperation, that he was named, simply, 'Max'.

Also notable; the original Max Rockatansky was mad, but only in the form of desperate cruelties and selfish nervousness. A coward with a talent for cars. Quite the opposite of this wary but compassionate man, more skilled in killing with his hands than in driving, soft-spoken but intelligent and unquestionably brave.

[Dog_in_Car]

Hes the feral child...

[Jakkar]

The Feral Child became the leader of the Great Northern Tribe after a long life with the clan that took the oil in Road Warrior, I don't think he had room to get everyone killed, go into trauma, wander off into a desert with entirely magical rules (magnetic storms, the seas evaporated), do everything he did there then return to this tribe and adopt the mantle.

It's possible, but the character simple doesn't suit, I feel. I'd also expect him to be able to fend for himself a lot better, that child was talented in stealth, bushcraft, and a great shot with the boomerang.