unepic neuron library boss, UNFAIR MECHANIC!!!

[TRAIN FOX]

playing this boss was one of the most #@$#@ experiance of my life and this is why.

during the fight Neuron will force you to through out your potions. after seeing this any rational player would then kill themselves and drop all there potions on the ground before the fight starts.

HOWEVER, Neuron will force you to telliport home near the end of the fight which erases anything that you dropped on the ground. The game doesnt tell you that you have to drop your halo during the fight, or even give a hint. The game just unfarly erased all my potions.

Has this happened to anyone else.

[Stevebat]

If losing potions is a concern, you can always just die when the boss dumps your potions, Heck sometimes the boss does it for you because that animation is so damn long and when you hold onto potions like crazy...

And frankly, this boss is the only reason harnabank exists. Why else would you need to dump your inventory at any point?

As a note: I beat the bastard with only a 1 in healing magic, It's just a measure of how many green essences you carry. (Hint: It takes more than 80 which I learned the hard way)

As for builds, the early game really discourages specialization. You really should be putting early points into what is the popular weakness for the zone. Typically a unique can be found that the boss is weak to, if it isn't a particular type of magic For example Slicering the unique polearm is GREAT for hitting neuron in the face . Specialization really isn't a good idea until later in the game.

[Max58201]

my god kids today would never survive the old rpgs if they consider this game unfair...

[PipPopPuddinPop]

I don't see the problem. Neuron is a boss that requires a very specific strategy to overcome. If you're so specialized that you can't even handle a mid-game boss changing things up slightly, you've built your character incorrectly. It's that simple.

In fact, Neuron is the only boss that offered any real challenge. The rest of them are pushovers. If you aren't doing the challenges associated with them (which, obviously, are meant to be challenging), you shouldn't have any trouble killing them.

[Shiro]

Originally posted by PipPopPuddinPop:

I don't see the problem. Neuron is a boss that requires a very specific strategy to overcome. If you're so specialized that you can't even handle a mid-game boss changing things up slightly, you've built your character incorrectly. It's that simple.

In fact, Neuron is the only boss that offered any real challenge. The rest of them are pushovers. If you aren't doing the challenges associated with them (which, obviously, are meant to be challenging), you shouldn't have any trouble killing them.

You're mistaking busy work with challenge. Getting killed by him has nothing to do with being "too specialized", it's a matter of having to repeat the fight several times over as he slowly introduces new ways of messing with your spells and inventory until you can finally fight him for real. At which point the fight is a slow grind as you work your way to one end of the level, repel down to hit him once, then to the other end to do it again... and again... and again... pause to grab a potion and heal... then again... and again... and so on and so forth until eventually you finally kill him.

[Hrea]

ehm is not that difficult i killed him in the 3º attempt, why?

1º attempt: die in my own spell
2º attempt: teleport
3º attempt: i dropped essence, potions and halo in the bank, and kill it, nothing more nothing less, i dint watch any guide and nothing, its just natural the way to kill it

[GeminiSaint]

I had to use a guide for this boss. Why? Mostly because I failed to notice the ropes in the room. I just didn't see them. You can probably imagine how my fights went before I gave up and checked a guide...

[devslo]

Dropped all my pots to the ground on attempt 2, teleported, lost all my stuff. Heartbroken by game - DO NOT RECOMMEND! ♥♥♥♥ YOU DEVS

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

I initially couldn't beat Neuron because I failed a spot check to notice the ziplines at the top of the room, lol.

So I looked up some stuff and found people talking about dropping potions. I couldn't understand why.

So then I fought him. Then he caused me to empty out all my potions. So I was like, okay, never mind, I'm going to drop all my potions before I start the fight.

Then he caused me to teleport away. So I was like, okay, I'll also drop all my teleportation items.

Keep in mind -- DON'T get a heals after you get teleported out like this, or if you teleported out because Neuron wasted all your potions and then you were near dying. If you do you get autosaved.

Beyond that, all I really needed was enough green magic essence and both healing and regeneration spells. And some sort of reasonable melee weapon.

Also I never figured out what Suicidal Thoughts meant.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Originally posted by devslo:

Dropped all my pots to the ground on attempt 2, teleported, lost all my stuff. Heartbroken by game - DO NOT RECOMMEND! ♥♥♥♥ YOU DEVS

Thieves probably took them.

You can get your stuff back if you lure a thief, kill it, then pick up the Strange Scroll that it sometimes drops. Those teleport you back to the thieves' lair...which includes a stash of all the stuff that they picked up from you.

[The Toblin]

I hate his guts but I will never say he's not a brilliant boss fight. It's a very clever design and for that I love it.

[purpleninja102]

the only problem i had with him was i hadn't known how to use ropes up to that point, and so i was using the plant to hurt him and potions to heal. when he emptied my potions i got mad and he killed me and so i thought "this is obviously not how you fight him"
up until this point i thought the ropes were asthetic and the book of wisdom quest needed some sort of double jump.

[dejunai]

Rise O'Zombie Topic! Rise and hear my Reply!

I agree with Original Poster (OP); Neuron is completely unfair...

And anyone defending the fight as fair, has absolutely no leg to stand on, if they researched the fight before hand. Learning the fight strictly by trial and error, attempt after attempt, is more punishing than anything I have played before. If you did the same and still think the fight is fair, well you are a better man than I.

I haven't read every post in this topic, but I still want to add my two cents, having just completed this boss fight without any help. Strictly by playing and losing time and time again.

It took me more than 5 failed attempts. Each time learning some new phuckin' mechanic: Potion dump, Teleport out, Cast spells on self, Swapping left/right controls (confusion), and ultimately just dying before I could kill him.

Finally I was smart enuf to farm Satyr Intestines, craft REGEN potions and individually lay them across the floor of the fight room. Plus I leveled up the healing skill so I could use the weak-but-better-than-nothing REGEN spell, to use once I couldn't pick up the potions without dumping them immediately. Finally I used up my collected "Melee Mastery" scrolls. These steps finally made the fight end in my favor. BUT AT WHAT COST? The learning curve, without hints or tutorial videos, is just way to steep to be fair.

I am off to the Catacombs now, and If the next boss-fight is like Neuron's, I am sure to rage quit.

Without any warning or NPC to hint at the fight mechanics Neuron is just NOT fun.

[PrettzL]

Neuron could definitely be improved by having a closer quick travel point/more direct route from the closest quick travel to the boss room, and having way way less HP (enough to be killed by 12-18 successful hits would be plenty as getting up to the correct side platform and being lined up on your fall to hit with any given weapon is fairly time consuming anyway).

The gimmick of the fight is sure to cost any new player at least 3 runs, more likely double that if they aren't observant enough to understand the effects ongoing in the fight.

I was really disappointed when I was teleported from the boss the first time and the only thing I learned at that point was that no matter how much I prepared without reading a guide I would never have been able to beat that boss in one go.

[t-me]

if you guys realy think that this is an unfair boss... go and google psycho mantis vids... to whine just because you cant kill something on the first go is lame and neuron has so much live coz he has weak attacks... if you would need much less hits he wont realy be able to kill you since he uses a weak damage over time skill (beside his psycho tricks) if you want him to have less hp than just if he gets more dmg!

[Dragun16]

All i have to say is, a mechanic that basiclly forces you to have a Walk through OPEN before every fght is abit BS, Second i droped my loot in the "bank" and finished the fight come back and its all gone..... so more BS thanks.

Dont know if im even going to bother with a second play through ....