The Katana Really Sucks Now...

[Teralitha]

It does okay against enemies with little or no armor.(BUT so does every other weapon in the game) But hit any enemy with decent armor and its like hiting them with a wet noodle. Utterly useless. I see no reason to use them ever again. Litterally every other weapon can spank an unarmored enemy. Why would I need a katana when I can just choose any other weapon that doesnt have a huge negative and can do damage to anything equally?

Really poor design decision. Katana's are junk. Just remove them from the game.

[harberst]

Katana's are for training dex, after that you use real weapons.

[Teralitha]

Originally posted by harberst:

Katana's are for training dex, after that you use real weapons.

So you agree they are junk.

[Thundercracker]

Originally posted by Teralitha:

Originally posted by harberst:

Katana's are for training dex, after that you use real weapons.

So you agree they are junk.

just like in real life!

kitanas are duelling swords, meant to be used on unarmored or wicker armored opponents. they are utterly defeted by metal armor.

this is why western swords are meant to crush or peirce, unlike japan, they had to deal with metal armor in europe.

steel has a hard time cutting steel, you need a lot of force to do it. you get that force, generally, by adding mass to the blade. generally, this will transform the sword from a cutting instrument into a crushing one.

and as always, it is far easier to pierce steel than it is to cut steel.

[TrollPlayerMx]

Originally posted by Dr Gori:

Originally posted by Teralitha:

So you agree they are junk.

just like in real life!

kitanas are duelling swords, meant to be used on unarmored or wicker armored opponents. they are utterly defeted by metal armor.

this is why western swords are meant to crush or peirce, unlike japan, they had to deal with metal armor in europe.

steel has a hard time cutting steel, you need a lot of force to do it. you get that force, generally, by adding mass to the blade. generally, this will transform the sword from a cutting instrument into a crushing one.

and as always, it is far easier to pierce steel than it is to cut steel.

this, the european swords had mor blunt than cut, because the heavy armored guys will break the weapon edge

[Erei]

Originally posted by harberst:

Katana's are for training dex, after that you use real weapons.

They are really good early on. When your stats are too bad to use any heavy weapons or MA, and your opponents have little to no armor anyway.

But yeah, later on they fall behind. They nerfed the katanas of pretty much everything overtime. It's sad, but then you can have a look at armor, and see balance can be way worse.

[Teralitha]

Kenshi is not europe. And unlike europe, kenshi has no full plate armor. The penalty shouldnt be so much. If such armor exists in kenshi, then no one would ever make a katana would they?

In fact pretty much every weapon in kenshi is useless vs a full plate armor. Not one single melee weapon in the game is a piercing weapon. So shouldnt every weapon have a penalty vs armor?(Oh thats right, there is! its called damage resistance, all armor has it.) The drastic nerf to katanas makes little sense. I mean, its a single player game not pvp. And there is no power creep either. Katanas were made into crap for no good reason.

[TrollPlayerMx]

Originally posted by Teralitha:

They overdid it. Unlike europe, kenshi has no full plate armor. The penalty shouldnt be so much. If such armor exists in kenshi, then no one would ever make a katana would they?

In fact pretty much every weapon in kenshi is useless vs a full plate armor. Not one single melee weapon in the game is a piercing weapon. So shouldnt every weapon have a penalty vs armor?(Oh thats right, there is! its called damage resistance, all armor has it.) The drastic nerf to katanas makes little sense. I mean, its a single player game not pvp. And there is no power creep either. Katanas were made into crap for no good reason.

atleast you can mod it by yourself, you cant make a big complain when the changes arent irreversible

[Teralitha]

I dont use or create mods for a game that is still being updated.

[killer tomato]

Good for you because most mods dont stop working with a new update ( only if there are major changes to the ui or the world, which are not to be expected soon cause the game is released)

[Pyrrhus]

Katana still has better multiple hit rates, even samurais wield them can take down group of paladins wielding holy cross.

[Thundercracker]

Originally posted by Teralitha:

Kenshi is not europe. And unlike europe, kenshi has no full plate armor. The penalty shouldnt be so much. If such armor exists in kenshi, then no one would ever make a katana would they?

In fact pretty much every weapon in kenshi is useless vs a full plate armor. Not one single melee weapon in the game is a piercing weapon. So shouldnt every weapon have a penalty vs armor?(Oh thats right, there is! its called damage resistance, all armor has it.) The drastic nerf to katanas makes little sense. I mean, its a single player game not pvp. And there is no power creep either. Katanas were made into crap for no good reason.

nope, samurai armor is full plate, as well as the plate jacket and probably hevy merc plate. i mean they even rattle when they walk!

crossbows are all piercing weapons.

kenshi also has a load of swords that function as european swords. planks and segmented axes come to mind, as well as the horse chopper. these kinds of weapons were designed to crush armor.

some of them even have bonuses against armor.

Originally posted by Pyrrhus:

Katana still has better multiple hit rates, even samurais wield them can take down group of paladins wielding holy cross.

that attack speed is pretty good for keeping enemies stunlocked.

[Teralitha]

Originally posted by Dr Gori:

Originally posted by Teralitha:

Kenshi is not europe. And unlike europe, kenshi has no full plate armor. The penalty shouldnt be so much. If such armor exists in kenshi, then no one would ever make a katana would they?

In fact pretty much every weapon in kenshi is useless vs a full plate armor. Not one single melee weapon in the game is a piercing weapon. So shouldnt every weapon have a penalty vs armor?(Oh thats right, there is! its called damage resistance, all armor has it.) The drastic nerf to katanas makes little sense. I mean, its a single player game not pvp. And there is no power creep either. Katanas were made into crap for no good reason.

nope, samurai armor is full plate, as well as the plate jacket and probably hevy merc plate. i mean they even rattle when they walk!

crossbows are all piercing weapons.

kenshi also has a load of swords that function as european swords. planks and segmented axes come to mind, as well as the horse chopper. these kinds of weapons were designed to crush armor.

some of them even have bonuses against armor.

Originally posted by Pyrrhus:

Katana still has better multiple hit rates, even samurais wield them can take down group of paladins wielding holy cross.

that attack speed is pretty good for keeping enemies stunlocked.

Could you be even more wrong? I dont even want to address everything that you just said that is wrong, its that obvious.

[Teralitha]

Originally posted by Pyrrhus:

Katana still has better multiple hit rates, even samurais wield them can take down group of paladins wielding holy cross.

No they actually cant. Unless you can provide a video it didnt happen

[DreadLordNaf]

its almost like, certain weapons are good for certain situations, but not others..........

[Teralitha]

Originally posted by DreadLordNaf:

its almost like, certain weapons are good for certain situations, but not others..........

Its almost like... the katana is good for nothing.