Backpack question

[Rooney]

Hello.
Do some backpacks affect athletics in some way when they are empty?
Thanks in advance.

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

No vanilla backpack has any impact on the athletics skill, they might impact dodge, stealth, combat speed and MA/MD but not athletics.

[Rooney]

Originally posted by Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia:

No vanilla backpack has any impact on the athletics skill, they might impact dodge, stealth, combat speed and MA/MD but not athletics.

Thank you :)

[magne.moe]

You could put your backpack in inventory, Works well if you carry an wooden one and only use it then you loot the location :)

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

Can also put empty backpacks into other backpacks

[magne.moe]

Originally posted by Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia:

Can also put empty backpacks into other backpacks

Yes you can wear an thief backpack with an wooden inside and switch for looting.

Another tricks / exploit is to put backpack in inventory of an corpse or even knocked out teammate and carry them They only weight 40 kg,
Even beak things, who looks hilarious :)
So many times I recruit slow people == not wearing speed limbs I give them all the backpack s and carry them.

[Triple G]

Also the black backpacks have like no downside - except for a -2 attack / defense debuff for the medium one.

I usually leave my backpacks on, but wouldn´t use the large or the wooden / scavenger ones - then the debuffs are bearable. Archers get the small ones, as they fit 2 regular arrows next to each other. If i want to use eagle´s crosses they get the medium ones. MA users would only get the black backpacks, or the regular small one, because they need some dodge. Farmers get the scavenger backpack for the looks.

You can also put the pack animal backpacks in Your inventory, but You would need to put it on the ground to access the inventory of it. Also the backpacks in the inventory wouldn´t get the weight reduction...

[Bandy]

Originally posted by Triple G:

... Archers get the small ones, as they fit 2 regular arrows next to each other. ...

There is a mod called 'Quiver' is that what you mean by "small ones"?
And if not, there is a mod called Quiver for archers. Seems an overlook by devs.

[Triple G]

Originally posted by Bandy:

There is a mod called 'Quiver' is that what you mean by "small ones"?
And if not, there is a mod called Quiver for archers. Seems an overlook by devs.

There are three sizes of regular backpacks. Small, medium and large. The small one is 8 squares wide, the medium 10. The regular bolt is 4 in length, and the long bolts are 5 in length. The small backpacks are literally called small backpacks in the game. Regular or thief version. I would choose the color depending on the rest of their clothes.

Imho what´s an oversight is that most items which would be needed on the characters are 3 wide, but neither the inventory nor a backpack is 9 wide. Like most food items, the skeleton repair kits, the advanced medical items, the toothpick and heavy bolts. Things which would make sense in the inventory / backpack.

[Bandy]

Originally posted by Triple G:

...most items needed on the characters are 3 wide... Like most food items .... Things which would make sense in the inventory / backpack.

And there are a few mods for that, tho think the advanced first aid kits should be 3 wide.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2385662816&searchtext=food+cube

And I do not see this in the workshop:
All food is 4 squares
https://www.nexusmods.com/kenshi/mods/286

[Triple G]

^
That You for the link. I have no huge problem with it being 3 wide. And imho the only use for the backpacks is to put medical items and arrows into them. I basically only wear the backpacks, because it looks more like exploration team...

My food and stuff is on the pack animal. And medical items i just put three below each other instead of sideways. Having food on my people is too much micro, as they wouldn´t refill it automatically. This way i just replenish the medical stuff with a few clicks, and the arrows, whenever i´m at some store - while a full backpack of arrows usually lasts for long. I can go on exploration for at least a week this way - without replenishing anything, while i have emergency stuff on the pack animal.

I only use the full inventory, and the backpack when i loot locations. So one guy who is neither archer nor medic will grab the stuff. And it´s also emergency space if the pack animals are full.

[Synopse]

Backpacks can be handy if looted by bandits. Just take them off and they cant be looted.