How to level stats at start of game when solo?

[Ryu]

I keep getting killed are there any places that you can train without getting kill all the time i heard there are dummies you can use but I also hear you can't use them without risking making people upset with you useing them is there a way to use them by paying to use them?

[Yosuf]

If you are close to the Hub, find the ninjas, they have some training dummies you can use. And if you pay 10k gold you can join to their faction and have some benefits.

[Frog]

yeah join the shinobi thieves. https://kenshi.fandom.com/wiki/Shinobi_Thieves#Major_Towns these are the towns they are in. mine and sell copper until you have 10k

[Radiosity]

You can also do the research yourself, but a) that'll take ages since you're solo, and b) allying to the ninjas means you can run over to them if you get into trouble and need help. Allies will always come to your aid if they're nearby.

Fight hungry bandits first, they use blunt weapons and you're less likely to bleed out. Go up to dust bandits after that, but be ready to run for help. Fortunately they wander through hub pretty often, meaning you can attack unprovoked, then kite them over to the ninja tower. Just be careful with that, the trade ninjas in the bar might not help you if you attack the bandits first, hence why having an alliance with the Shinobi is a good idea.

[Kuromiya]

As other people are saying, Shinobi Thieves are a great investment. Even if you're not planning on thieving, the Shinobis give you access to low level training dummies, sell cool rare gear, and have safehouses in many towns, meaning you'll have places to heal yourself all around the world.

Once you've got your own house, a lot of people recommend kidnapping a bandit and using her as a training dummy. Keep her in a cage, take her out for a fight, beat her unconscious, give her first aid, stick her back in the cage, repeat as long as necessary. Tougher bandits make for faster leveling.

[Ryu]

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As other people are saying, Shinobi Thieves are a great investment. Even if you're not planning on thieving, the Shinobis give you access to low level training dummies, sell cool rare gear, and have safehouses in many towns, meaning you'll have places to heal yourself all around the world.

Once you've got your own house, a lot of people recommend kidnapping a bandit and using her as a training dummy. Keep her in a cage, take her out for a fight, beat her unconscious, give her first aid, stick her back in the cage, repeat as long as necessary. Tougher bandits make for faster leveling.

I'm going to play as a good person so i won't be kidnapping people i want to be able to train without breaking my own morals :)

[Kuromiya]

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Publicado originalmente por KickySonichu:

As other people are saying, Shinobi Thieves are a great investment. Even if you're not planning on thieving, the Shinobis give you access to low level training dummies, sell cool rare gear, and have safehouses in many towns, meaning you'll have places to heal yourself all around the world.

Once you've got your own house, a lot of people recommend kidnapping a bandit and using her as a training dummy. Keep her in a cage, take her out for a fight, beat her unconscious, give her first aid, stick her back in the cage, repeat as long as necessary. Tougher bandits make for faster leveling.

I'm going to play as a good person so i won't be kidnapping people i want to be able to train without breaking my own morals :)

Bandits, tho.

You said in the other thread you hate bandits, right? Would putting them in jail and using them as a sparring dummy break your moral code?

You could also try animals, robots, your own hirelings etc. You just need something living that you can wail on, over and over and over again, in the privacy and safety of your own home.

[Ryu]

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Publicado originalmente por Ryu:

I'm going to play as a good person so i won't be kidnapping people i want to be able to train without breaking my own morals :)

Bandits, tho.

You said in the other thread you hate bandits, right? Would putting them in jail and using them as a sparring dummy break your moral code?

You could also try animals, robots, your own hirelings etc. You just need something living that you can wail on, over and over and over again, in the privacy and safety of your own home.

Yes much like how in real life it's one thing to defend yourself but then taking the person who attacked you and then beating them up over and over only to put them in a cage for them to just live in hell is going to far.

[Kuromiya]

ALSO, I'm assuming you're looking to level your combat stats, yes? Dummies only work for a short time, and fighting is required for the rest. HOWEVER, if you're squeamish about keeping a bandit around for chopping practice, then you can always try Crossbows. Even at low levels, they can be brutal, and a solo crossbowman will survive a LOT longer than a solo melee fighter - you just need to make sure you're got good Athletics, too, so you can run away.

Athletics you can train just by running everywhere. Strength you can train by running everywhere with a lot of heavy stuff in your inventory. The heavier your load, the slower your Athletics but the faster your Strength trains. I like stuffing some backpacks with heavy industrial gear and running along safe routes for this, but you train where you like.

After you've got your Athletics, Strength, and Crossbow up, you're free to kill anything you want. If you still want an "easy" way to train melee, you can shoot people up with your crossbow, then finish them off in melee, safely, once they've been reduced to armless and legless bleed-puppets.

[Yosuf]

Yes, that is how i imagine playing solo: a sniper rifle, a lot of athletics, steal and martial arts, maybe.

[Kuromiya]

Stealing is crazy good for money, especially once you've got a townhouse and storage bins to strip the Stolen Item flag off your stolen items. You can take a merchant's entire inventory at night, then sell it all back to him the next morning.

Unfortunately, Ryu wants to be "moral", so stealing is not an option for him.

[Ryu]

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Stealing is crazy good for money, especially once you've got a townhouse and storage bins to strip the Stolen Item flag off your stolen items. You can take a merchant's entire inventory at night, then sell it all back to him the next morning.

Unfortunately, Ryu wants to be "moral", so stealing is not an option for him.

Yeah starting to think this game is not for me it's clear the game says you can be anything you want but starting to think the one thing you can't be is a good moral person and live :)

[Radiosity]

Publicado originalmente por Ryu:

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Stealing is crazy good for money, especially once you've got a townhouse and storage bins to strip the Stolen Item flag off your stolen items. You can take a merchant's entire inventory at night, then sell it all back to him the next morning.

Unfortunately, Ryu wants to be "moral", so stealing is not an option for him.

Yeah starting to think this game is not for me it's clear the game says you can be anything you want but starting to think the one thing you can't be is a good moral person and live :)

Actually, the whole point of your personal faction is that you're NOT like the others. Hence why the game doesn't allow you to do slavery (without mods), because you're kinda like Robin Hood or whatever.

Of course, you can play evil if you like, but you CAN play moral and good too, quite easily. It might make life a little tougher, but limiting your playstyle for roleplay purposes is half the charm :)

Just set up a little leather working operation in a house somewhere and crank out clothing to sell, it's pretty easy to come across leathers (go to the hives and hang around there, gorillos and beak things have plenty, and the hivers will kill them for you), and once you level the skill a bit, you'll be able to make money pretty easily, and in a morally upstanding manner ;p

[Kuromiya]

There's honestly not a lot of ways to make money solo that don't involve either stealing or getting leveled enough on kidnapped bandits that you can capture bounty targets single handedly. You can start a small business producing a single type of trade good, but that won't leave you much time to do anything else.

You can be ALMOST anything you want to be. You just can't be a nice guy, and rich, and solo.

That said, you can probably find mods that'll make it easier to train and get money legit. You can also use custom starts to give yourself a boost to stats, and skip the grind.

[Endgunner]

Carry around iron till you get 30 STR, get a low level plank. At 30STR you will use it about as good as you would the starting weapon. Then run around until you run at 20 MPH. Then dash to the fog islands making sure to avoid beakthings.

There you will have an endless amount of low level fogmen to run to the quards. Just make sure they never fully knock you out. After you get to around attack 40 you will be able to go off on your own and kill larger and larger squads of fogmen

After attack level 60 you will be able to farm fog heads worth 6K cats each. After you get to attack/defense 70+ you will be unstoppable and make a fortune in fog heads. Mongral also sells a Masterwork Samurai chestplate and even better heavy weapons.

This is how i start my games.

[Radiosity]

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You can be ALMOST anything you want to be. You just can't be a nice guy, and rich, and solo.

Not quite true. Just depends how much risk you want to shoulder. And if you're playing solo in a game like Kenshi, I assume you're fine with risk. That said, ruin diving is a great source of big income as a solo character, it just takes some upfront work first.

Go to the hives and train your stealth up to 80+. Train your lockpicking with the Shinobi thieves until you're close to 15 (think that was the max for a lv2 locksmith training box). Then continue picking locks wherever you can until you're at 50+. Train athletics up to 50+ as well. And grab some assassin rags from the Shinobi shop to boost your sneak the rest of the way to 100.

At that point you've basically won the game. Grab a thieves backpack, run to a ruin, lockpick your way in, stealth straight past the security spiders, steal the high value goods (CPU cores, power cores, etc), and then go sell them. You'll have tens of thousands super fast, and never have to steal once.

Hell, if you're solo, research might not even be on the cards, in which case just take the REALLY high value stuff (science books, AI cores, etc) and sell them instead.