Kinda stuck in Mongrel

[Ghin]

I went to Mongrel (bad idea) and my party isn't really equipped to deal with fighting outnumbered 2 or 4 to 1, or deal with naked fogmen clubbing us and carting us off into the mist. The main problem is I can't really make money. Most of the fogmen are just carrying sticks and only the princes have loot to sell. All of the equipment is high grade and too expensive for me to buy.

I rescued a couple people from camps, but I can't afford to buy them any gear. I have 5 toothpick+katana troops, 4 people with heavier armor and assorted polearms, and the two servants I rescued who have a club and rags. Polearms are nice, but I would like to switch to a plank or something that can sweep multiple enemies in each strike. Toothpicks are at least okay here if I can keep the hordes off my crossbows. The town guards are usually good at keeping the fogmen off my crossbows.

Maybe I should just make a run for it and come back later, but I would like to look around and get some cash while I'm here.

[Fryskar]

Train stealth and sneak out.

If you have to ask, its unlikely that you can just fight your way out.

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

Fighting your way out requires a few good fighters that can take a beating, running out however just needs you to outpace regular fogmen which isn't hard.

Money making in the fogislands is either mining the iron near by to mongrel or headhunting (fog prince heads to be precise). Unless you have mods that make other methods of money making possible.

[Locklave]

You are in a position to gear up and slowly get stronger in Mongrel.

First problem is money.

1. Sell fogmen weapons if you are desperate for food money. Loot the ones the guards down.
2. Look for downed Fog Princes the guards have downed. They can and will be downed by guards, you need to loot their heads ASAP as the guards will burn dead bodies, Fog Prince heads are worth 6000 each. They also use ninja blades which are worth okay money.
3. Renting beds at an inn is a constant drain on money. Join the Thieves guild for 10,000 get free beds forever and people that will bandage and aid you in the town. Bed costs add up quickly if you have a decent sized team

Second problem is they are too strong and too numerous.

1. Support the guards in combat every chance you get. Build up your fighting skill where you can. Getting stronger will increase your chances of getting more heads which means better gear.

About escaping

Sneaking out is not gonna happen if you have people with heavy armor and I'll assume you don't wanna just sell it all so you can escape. Honestly just outrunning them would be easier, athletics without heavy armor would get the same results faster. But in both cases you can't have cargo or heavy gear.

I'd advise staying and trying to get the most out of being there. You might get strong enough to force your way out. There are also likely Mercs in town, don't touch them till you are ready to leave. Worst case you use them as fodder to help escape, best case they make you strong enough to fight your way out once you've built your team up a bit.

[Puppygirl Nation]

i usally just run out of the fog area. never had a problem avoiding fog men myself.

[mcb0ny]

19 mph run speed. 20 to be safe. That's all it takes. Right click on the map somewhere outside the fog island ant you are done.

Well, ok, you still have to watch the run, cause pathfinding is a b*tch sometimes and you don't want to get stuck with a horde of frogmen chasing you.

So... buy sandals, train up athletics a bit, don't be overburdened, and run. GL ;]

[Ghin]

I can outrun the fogmen pretty easily, but I'm going to have to carry my new recruits out. I think if I can just afford a few heavy weapons and get them trained up a bit, I can handle the fogmen pretty easily. My heavy group has people ranging from 50 to 35 strength, so they do okay. The toothpicks actually do quite well spraying fogmen with bolts, and they can't really hurt my melee fighters in heavy armor with the toothpick bolts. I've been using the thieves tower to rest and attempt equipping my new guys with half off leather.

[Puppygirl Nation]

Originally posted by mcb0ny:

19 mph run speed. 20 to be safe. That's all it takes. Right click on the map somewhere outside the fog island ant you are done.

Well, ok, you still have to watch the run, cause pathfinding is a b*tch sometimes and you don't want to get stuck with a horde of frogmen chasing you.

So... buy sandals, train up athletics a bit, don't be overburdened, and run. GL ;]

this is basically what you do op. you gonna be fine

[Helios]

Originally posted by Ghin:

I can outrun the fogmen pretty easily, but I'm going to have to carry my new recruits out. I think if I can just afford a few heavy weapons and get them trained up a bit, I can handle the fogmen pretty easily. My heavy group has people ranging from 50 to 35 strength, so they do okay. The toothpicks actually do quite well spraying fogmen with bolts, and they can't really hurt my melee fighters in heavy armor with the toothpick bolts. I've been using the thieves tower to rest and attempt equipping my new guys with half off leather.

you can teleport your squad if you run out with one person save at the spot you want to go and load the save with reset squad position.

[Ghin]

Well I made it out. It wasn't that bad really, I ran into a few small squads of fogmen and didn't get injured too badly for the most part. Now I get to equip and train all these dudes I just picked up around Mongrel. I can probably have someone working research full time now and get some of the stuff I need to eventually start my town.

[Raymond]

lol who said you can't make money in Mongrel? there are iron nodes all around the city.

[Khergit Horse Archer]

micro them one by one, wide open eyes

[Limdood]

move at night. #1 most important thing. Don't equip lanterns. At night enemy sight is vastly reduced, whether you're stealthed or not.

travel light. make sure your encumbrance is at 0% or as close as possible on everyone. hopefully you have a few even stronger people that can carry someone if they get downed.

travel together. toggle the run icon on the bottom right until its the black person running and the red person running...that will lock everyone's speed the same (to your slowest member's speed....that's why you travel light). You have a better chance of avoiding trouble if there are no stray party members away from the group.

travel straight south. quickest and easiest route out of the foglands from Mongrel.

Zoom out and pan your camera around a LOT. At night in particular, you can always spot the big groups of fogmen before they spot you. The earlier you see them coming, the more likely you are to successfully start sneaking and get behind an obstacle while they pass.

Save before you go (or don't....if that's your thing and you want to embrace the "only 1 chance mindset, then great)

If you stop to fight while inside the foglands, you've already lost. just. keep. running. If you're definitely going to be overwhelmed, you can try having one person stop and distract the fogmen while the rest escape, though they often split up to follow multiple people. note that one really good stealth person, at night, strong enough to carry others, can easily circle back around and rescue captured party members

[Pherdnut]

It took a couple attempts but I was able to run out with a character in mid 20s-ish stats + the Mongrel recruits. The rest were safely back home in the Hub. I pulled as many fog men nearby to the guards as I could before setting out to get them out of the way. And then save scummed runs in different directions until I found my way out. I think due west to the hive village in that direction was what finally worked for me. Make sure everybody is minimally encumbered.