Crossbow advice

[Apes]

Hi, so can i have some advice on crossbows and which bolts to use etc! Are they any good end game etc
Long range short range etc! .

[No gf]

Currently the crossbow is unbalanced and there's no reason to use anything other than eagle cross.

[Vyrex]

Theres a list in the wiki imo its preference what type you like to use. Higher dmg output longer reload or the opposite. They can be pretty op.

[p30pl3h4t3m3]

damage is all the same (1x) so use the bolts the crossbow need. how much damage you make, depens on the crossbow & quality.

if you have a large squad, a bunch of people with crossbows is always usefull, if not... melee > range.

[flu007]

Sure, Eagle's Cross is the "best," but there are other considerations.

Rate of fire was mentioned. But also, the skills of the crossbow user, especially with regards to friendly fire. And there's also the ammo type - Eagle's Cross uses Long Bolts, which you kinda have to produce yourself to have a sufficient supply, and they take steel bars to make, while regular bolts and toothpicks can be produced with iron plates and are also more readily available in shops.

I'd say the Oldworld Bow MKI is probably one you can skip, but the others have their uses.

[Gopblin]

Crossbowmen are a huge pain to micro because of friendly fire.
However, since they can kite the enemy indefinitely even if the enemy is faster (enemy will start doing the combat shuffle like 30 feet out, giving them time to reload), they always win any micro'd engagement.

Also, xbows are hilariously deadly at higher damage setting, and with mods like CANF mod. At 2x damage with CANF, a single guy with MKI can take out an entire city in a few minutes without taking a scratch. For this reason, mods that at least add xbowmen to enemy factions are recommended.

[Apes]

Thank you all, for your responses! Im going to enjoy using them :)

[Empyreo]

Originally posted by No gf:

Currently the crossbow is unbalanced and there's no reason to use anything other than eagle cross.

if you have multiple people, a fast shooter can pretty much stagger lock enemies for your fighters.

[Minty]

Originally posted by No gf:

Currently the crossbow is unbalanced and there's no reason to use anything other than eagle cross.

Terrible comment. Squads armed with rangers are flawless for just locking large groups of enemies up and for adding a ton of sustainable damage as support for tankier members. Hell, you can do this with toothpicks if you like. If you don’t know how to use them, that’s fine, but all crossbows are perfectly viable. You train them like any other weapon.

[Empyreo]

Originally posted by Maus:

Originally posted by No gf:

Currently the crossbow is unbalanced and there's no reason to use anything other than eagle cross.

Terrible comment. Squads armed with rangers are flawless for just locking large groups of enemies up and for adding a ton of sustainable damage as support for tankier members. Hell, you can do this with toothpicks if you like. If you don’t know how to use them, that’s fine, but all crossbows are perfectly viable. You train them like any other weapon.

Eagle Cross + scout legs = good times

[Minty]

Originally posted by FondleMonster:

Originally posted by Maus:

Terrible comment. Squads armed with rangers are flawless for just locking large groups of enemies up and for adding a ton of sustainable damage as support for tankier members. Hell, you can do this with toothpicks if you like. If you don’t know how to use them, that’s fine, but all crossbows are perfectly viable. You train them like any other weapon.

Eagle Cross + scout legs = good times

Get the best of everything = winlolololol.

What’s your point?

[Hobo Misanthropus]

I do one Toothpick user (Usually my medic) for suppressive fire, and one specialized Xbow user (Eagle's Cross or Sping Bat + A backup ranger because heavies/longs are irritating or impossible to restock in the field).

All the crossbows are OP, but they do require ammo. I guess in reality what is OP isn't the Crossbow itself, but the users ability to micro movement orders. Should be a hard counter to Crossbows, that when the NPC enters "Combat Shuffle" they "Deflect" incoming bolts 95% of the time. Or maybe lower the stagger rate of All bolts except Heavies.

[Gamerfss86]

Originally posted by FondleMonster:

Originally posted by Maus:

Terrible comment. Squads armed with rangers are flawless for just locking large groups of enemies up and for adding a ton of sustainable damage as support for tankier members. Hell, you can do this with toothpicks if you like. If you don’t know how to use them, that’s fine, but all crossbows are perfectly viable. You train them like any other weapon.

Eagle Cross + scout legs = good times

lmfao just one masterpeice scout leg makes a character run faster than a beak thing (or almost) 32 mph.

thats hauling a** lol