Kenshi
Ancient Science Books
whats the easiest place to get science books? preferably near the hub. Im pretty early game but need some science books for researching.
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Serina Mar 9, 2019 @ 1:47pm 
https://kenshi.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient_Science_Book

I was able to buy 8 Ancient Science books from the Travel and Repair shop in Flats Lagoon.

If you wish to travel to Flats Lagoon, avoid the Swamp and go through Shem. From my experience, sometimes there are Beak Things in Shem but I never ran into many over there and it's easy enough to go around them, compared to the spiders in the Swamp.

There's also a mod called General Modifications which includes a Writing Desk. You can place Half-Eaten Science books and parchments in there to craft Ancient Science books.
Last edited by Serina; Mar 9, 2019 @ 1:56pm
Valykry Mar 9, 2019 @ 2:30pm 
If you get your stealth up high enough on one character (60-70ish. just have them sneak everywhere they go, shouldn't take long) and equip some ninja gear (anything that adds bonus to stealth, and nothing with penalties) then getting the books are a breeze. Just head into any ruins at night. Might want to get lockpicking up to at least 20 or so too.

Did this with a solo character and hit the grid and the crater. Walked away with 15 or 20 ancient books and 3 engineer research.
Last edited by Valykry; Mar 9, 2019 @ 2:32pm
THANKS OBAMA Mar 9, 2019 @ 3:12pm 
After you get the easy ones you're gonna need to delve ruins too. Either you need overwhelming force and lock picking, or stealth and lock picking.

In the end though some spots are pretty much impossible to clear without having a good force of soldiers [like 5-10] with around 30+ combat skills.
Nemerlight Mar 9, 2019 @ 3:14pm 
i just imported saves. I know its cheating but you need lots of them for research.
Germania516 Mar 9, 2019 @ 3:21pm 
Originally posted by Nemerlight:
i just imported saves. I know its cheating but you need lots of them for research.

I mean it's your business,but what is the point of cheating when you can enjoy yourself raiding,and exploring ? Nothing more adrenaline rushing after clearing the ruins, than picking that safe with your most skilled thief,and wondering what is inside,and how many ancient books it holds.

To each it's own



THANKS OBAMA Mar 9, 2019 @ 3:21pm 
Originally posted by Nemerlight:
i just imported saves. I know its cheating but you need lots of them for research.
Whatever floats your boat man, I think you'd need to do that anyways once you clear out all the end game ruins if the RNG fails to give you the end tier stuff a few times, Basically leaving you unable to clear the tech tree.

Still though a lot of the fun to me was getting strong enough to find and survive those places :d.
Germania516 Mar 9, 2019 @ 3:32pm 
Originally posted by loubre:
Originally posted by Nemerlight:
i just imported saves. I know its cheating but you need lots of them for research.
Whatever floats your boat man, I think you'd need to do that anyways once you clear out all the end game ruins if the RNG fails to give you the end tier stuff a few times, Basically leaving you unable to clear the tech tree.

Still though a lot of the fun to me was getting strong enough to find and survive those places :d.

I don't think resetting a ruin is a feature,and you will get everything you need because there are always more ruins/labs/libraries to explore.

I don't see how resetting is a feature other than cheating. The idea of having many treasures sites is for you to be able to excavate,and move on to get more treasures. In Rl if you cleared a tomb of all it's gold you did your job.

How fair would it be if you keep resetting and get triple of what you got out of your first adventure ,and I might be wrong but seriously no game let's you milk.
THANKS OBAMA Mar 9, 2019 @ 4:41pm 
Originally posted by Germania516:
I don't think resetting a ruin is a feature,and you will get everything you need because there are always more ruins/labs/libraries to explore.

I don't see how resetting is a feature other than cheating. The idea of having many treasures sites is for you to be able to excavate,and move on to get more treasures. In Rl if you cleared a tomb of all it's gold you did your job.

How fair would it be if you keep resetting and get triple of what you got out of your first adventure and I might be wrong but seriously no game let's you milk.

I'm not talking about milking a ruin repeatedly though. I was pointing out that it's probably impossible to complete your tech trees if RNG craps out. Unless things have changed in about the last 2 years since I last did the heavy ruins explorations it was possible to hit all the end tier zones back then and come up without nearly enough to do anything but finish one or two trees, like say defenses and farming.

On my current run if I get to that point again I'll still be resetting and clearing them all one by one to make sure I can finally finish it this time since I still had craptons of recipes still not unlocked.
Germania516 Mar 9, 2019 @ 5:28pm 
Originally posted by loubre:
Originally posted by Germania516:
I don't think resetting a ruin is a feature,and you will get everything you need because there are always more ruins/labs/libraries to explore.

I don't see how resetting is a feature other than cheating. The idea of having many treasures sites is for you to be able to excavate,and move on to get more treasures. In Rl if you cleared a tomb of all it's gold you did your job.

How fair would it be if you keep resetting and get triple of what you got out of your first adventure and I might be wrong but seriously no game let's you milk.

I'm not talking about milking a ruin repeatedly though. I was pointing out that it's probably impossible to complete your tech trees if RNG craps out. Unless things have changed in about the last 2 years since I last did the heavy ruins explorations it was possible to hit all the end tier zones back then and come up without nearly enough to do anything but finish one or two trees, like say defenses and farming.

On my current run if I get to that point again I'll still be resetting and clearing them all one by one to make sure I can finally finish it this time since I still had craptons of recipes still not unlocked.


I might be wrong but I am guessing Chris Hunt's motive was making the tech tree a bit similiar to LIF,where you have to be smart,and really decide on what tree you want to go down.

Perhaps you only get to have so many skills and abilties so they only give you so many books to scribe,and I am ok with that because you can always buy anything you need.

I would just go down the most important trees if this is the case,and I am fine with that because you don't need to master every ability because it would be too easy lol

It's good being self sufficient but you don't need to learn every craft to win this game. If you wanted to you can survive on the shop,and still win whatever your goal is.

Justin Sellers Mar 9, 2019 @ 11:52pm 
If you have some lockpicking skill, 15 should do, try the grid, on the west side of the swamp. There is an ancient lab with 3-5 boxes that have the potential to have some.
THANKS OBAMA Mar 10, 2019 @ 12:22am 
Originally posted by Germania516:
I might be wrong but I am guessing Chris Hunt's motive was making the tech tree a bit similiar to LIF,where you have to be smart,and really decide on what tree you want to go down.

Perhaps you only get to have so many skills and abilties so they only give you so many books to scribe,and I am ok with that because you can always buy anything you need.

I would just go down the most important trees if this is the case,and I am fine with that because you don't need to master every ability because it would be too easy lol

It's good being self sufficient but you don't need to learn every craft to win this game. If you wanted to you can survive on the shop,and still win whatever your goal is.

I guess that makes sense, but feels kinda borked. Either way I ended up with more than enough that run to max out Armorsmithing/Weaponsmithing but couldn't make my own towers and only had one or two hydroponics [Which I wished I never got once I realised they were kindof useless since I stupidly chose plants I could already grow really well outside where I settled.]

Either way that files still tucked away. When I tried to return to it a single large battle group of HN soldiers were able to wipe the floor with me when in the past I'd have curb stomped them, so my understanding of how to properly micro the battles has apparently went completely out the window. Heck that file was from before Crossbows were even a thing.
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Germania516 Mar 10, 2019 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by loubre:
Originally posted by Germania516:
I might be wrong but I am guessing Chris Hunt's motive was making the tech tree a bit similiar to LIF,where you have to be smart,and really decide on what tree you want to go down.

Perhaps you only get to have so many skills and abilties so they only give you so many books to scribe,and I am ok with that because you can always buy anything you need.

I would just go down the most important trees if this is the case,and I am fine with that because you don't need to master every ability because it would be too easy lol

It's good being self sufficient but you don't need to learn every craft to win this game. If you wanted to you can survive on the shop,and still win whatever your goal is.

I guess that makes sense, but feels kinda borked. Either way I ended up with more than enough that run to max out Armorsmithing/Weaponsmithing but couldn't make my own towers and only had one or two hydroponics [Which I wished I never got once I realised they were kindof useless since I stupidly chose plants I could already grow really well outside where I settled.]

Either way that files still tucked away. When I tried to return to it a single large battle group of HN soldiers were able to wipe the floor with me when in the past I'd have curb stomped them, so my understanding of how to properly micro the battles has apparently went completely out the window. Heck that file was from before Crossbows were even a thing.


Yes I have a plan on what tech I want to go down to fit my playstyle,and live my life on the planet {or wherever Kenshi takes place lol} I would say anything that is rare or very important for suvival,and isn't very common to find or buy would be the ideal tech to go down.

Now you can go down every skill that requires regular research books so get every skill you can with those books,and even if you only have half of that ability or skill you still have it,and it adds to benefit your tribe. If you only have your power ability to half that is fine,and a it doesn't have to be maxed or perfect,it's just as long as you can use your electric appliances.

In RL we all don't buy the best product when we buy a product. Here in Sweden we are pretty much minimalist lol Our houses are not too big,our cars are not German,and our furniture is from IKEA. Why must we buy the best to use something ?

On Kenshi,and I doubt we are going to have "everything" perfect when we decide on what skills we want. If you want it perfect in weapon making you will have the best player made weapons,but not all the crops on this game,and a will not be a gamebreaker ? No because you can always buy fabric from the shops when cotton was needed or you can buy electric parts that required the robotics skill to make.

I didn't even bother with anything in training to make dummies/boxes etc because you have a life pass when you join the shinobis,and they have everything you need to be a great thief or assassin so I didn't even waste my good books on those.

You will still get alot of books,and you will be able to research alot of beneficial skills. That is enough for me.

I will never reload or reset just to get to research everything because I don't think the mechanics were made for that. I do see that as exploiting.

What you can't make you can always steal lol
LogicRat Mar 21, 2021 @ 4:06pm 
i have been playing kenshi for about 4 days now and i researched all i could with regular books and set up a self sustaining base but now i want to get better gear by crafting it and need to get the science books and engineering books but every place i go is way to hard and my main 5 guys that i use to travel are at combat level 40+ and blocking 40+ but the only one that seems to be ably to handle himself is my skeleton that i started with i did the wanderer start btw and i came here wondering if there were easy places to get science books from because the 1 i did get i got from a lab in the vain area and had to fight blood spiders which were easy but i haven't found another area that easy or even that possible.
lizardmang Mar 21, 2021 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by Logic:
i came here wondering if there were easy places to get science books
A handful of them can be purchased from the Scraphouse next to Black Desert City.

A vast majority of locations where they can be looted are guarded by powerful enemies and many require a high lockpicking skill to obtain. It can be quite easy for a highly skilled stealth character to retrieve them without a fight. Crossbows can make short work of security spiders, and they're also slow enough to lure and distract while someone else goes in to loot. Otherwise, just keep training.
Last edited by lizardmang; Mar 21, 2021 @ 4:24pm
abundancebomb Mar 21, 2021 @ 5:58pm 
I was able to get to scraphouse pretty early game as soon as I levelled one guy's athletics up to 20+ kmh. Reasonably accessible acid-rain protection is drifter pants, armoured hood, and plate jacket. It's 75% protection but my guy only lost marginal health, or else you can use a hiver who are immune. I ran in from the east, from the waystation, and I encountered 0 problems... Just had to make sure he didn't swim through the acid ponds (idiot). It took all of a couple of minutes to get there... It was really shockingly easy. The iron spiders didn't even notice me because I went at night. There are like 8-12 (can't remember) ancient books for sale, and also 3x AI cores which makes it ridiculously easy to get hydroponics going.

Someone else said this I think but the trader at Flats Lagoon definitely has a few for sale.

I also visited Fish Isle in the South West just the other day and found quite a few goodies in the tower, including AI cores. There are like 10,000 fishmen on the top level only, so I was able to sneak around and clear the bottom levels after knocking out just one guy. I'm p sure there were ancient science books.

Otherwise buy maps specifically for ancient libraries. They normally are unguarded inside unlike the labs, in my experience, and often have at least a couple books.
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