Have goats any utility?

[[H9H] Ulrik407]

I don't understand the utility of this animals, they have any utility? or they're just food?

[DEADPOO]

Originally posted by Ulrik407:

I don't understand the utility of this animals, they have any utility? or they're just food?

You can stare at goats.
There are men who stare at goats.

[mitchm]

Some people don't believe in goats, but I've seen them with my own eyes man.........I believe in goats....

[Interknet]

Goats are pretty cool to have.
If you put in the effort to train it, it can become a pretty strong animal. Hell, why stop there, train a herd of 'em and set them on your enemies.

Think I've just given myself an idea for a playthrough at some point!


Why I know this: I wanted to make a mod to add a special goat called "Death Goat", but unfortunately I don't know how to model or texture, cause I would have made it black, with scars and bits of blood patches on it (open wounds), with about 50 in stats. It was a pretty powerful beast. Would have also made a quest to attain it.

Anyway, that's a pipe dream, probably would never continue to try and make that.

[Schlonz]

Goats! can be killers.
had a slightly trained goat PUB in training on a roof. let her melee with a captured and also slightly beaten....ehm...trained Band of bones shek . armed with a puny stick. the goat really smashed his face. a pub....

[Interknet]

Originally posted by Schlonz:

Goats! can be killers.
had a slightly trained goat PUB in training on a roof. let her melee with a captured and also slightly beaten....ehm...trained Band of bones shek . armed with a puny stick. the goat really smashed his face. a pub....

Honestly, if you get wealthy enough, just buy every goat from every animal trader you see and just set em loose on a town when you need to get sh*t done amirite

[Michael]

There was a point in early access where a mature goat was one of the deadliest things in the game, I'm not sure how they hold up now.

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by MinenSpecht:

Goats were implemented to make new players rage. I remember the tears now and then when people complained that being obliterated by a goat.

It was like "Pr0tip: if you can defeat hungry bandits move on but whatever you do DONT ATTACK NO GOATS!"

^--- This.

I first saw a pack of goats when I had about four characters which wouldn't survive a full-on Starving Bandit attack. And, of course, we were low on food. I thought the idea of cooking up a bunch of goats was a good one...

Luckily, we all survived. Obviously, no goats were harmed during the production of our unconsciousness.... Tough bartards, them goats. :) Very good to level up skills with, later on, though!

[NIL0S]

Goats are the soul of any party.

[Cookie]

Originally posted by mr_bman:

They bite really fast. Very high DPS. The hard part is keeping them alive until they mature.

Or just buy an adult one

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by MinenSpecht:

Goats were implemented to make new players rage. I remember the tears now and then when people complained that being obliterated by a goat.

It was like "Pr0tip: if you can defeat hungry bandits move on but whatever you do DONT ATTACK NO GOATS!"

^-- This.

I think everyone remembers seeing goats in an early game and thinking to themselves "Finally! Food!" and then getting their squad obliterated... by angry goats.

The "game" isn't any smarter, either. Starving Bandit groups get taken down pretty quickly when they madly charge random_goat_group_spawn#31.

But, there is at least one very interesting goat in-game players should try to find...

[Cookie]

[/quote]But, there is at least one very interesting goat in-game players should try to find... [/quote]
isnt there liek a named goat you can buy from a nomad or something?

[biochimera]

Eh for fighting I'd rather go dogs or bulls. The only real weakness of a dog is their stupidly slow speed which there are mods that address. The only real weakness of a bull is how damn big they are. Garrus are not great as fighters. From what I've seen of goats they are slightly outclassed by dogs and bulls.

[tikiman572]

While Garru aren't specifically built to be fighters, with the right training a War Garru can be pretty nice to have given their attacks are in an AoE swipe. Useful for keeping a few mobs busy while the rest of your group gets to work.

As for Goats... yeah, my first character met their end at the hands of a herd of Goats. Like, I knew I'd lose the fight. But I didn't think I'd actually be put into a state where I was dying faster than I was healing and just get up after a period of being comatose, slightly stronger for my efforts. I hope that, in Kenshi 2, Goats are given a bit more utility. Like, say, animal breeding is introduced and Goats are particularly fast at breeding? Now you have a steady supply of Meat and Leather. Also, you can milk female Goats for use in cooking recipes.

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by Cookie:

isnt there liek a named goat you can buy from a nomad or something?

Yes. :)

Originally posted by tikiman572:

...Like, say, animal breeding is introduced and Goats are particularly fast at breeding? Now you have a steady supply of Meat and Leather. Also, you can milk female Goats for use in cooking recipes.

I'd say any form of animal husbandry for meat would be... bad. It just wouldn't work very well as a mechanic in Kenshi. Chickens laying eggs? Err.. Beak Things laying eggs? Maybe. Milking Goats? Possibly. Sheep/combat-llama/other for some kind of "wool?" Sure. Clandestine Infiltration Yaks? It could happen...

I can't really think of a game where meat production from raising animals has ever really "worked." Sure, games have it, but if they're not some kind of meat-farm simulator, I bet their mechanics suck.* :)

*Some games do it, but they're much more a medium to large scale "sim" than Kenshi would be. We deal in minutes,hours and days. Those other sorts of games deal in weeks,months and years. It'd also take a lot of resources to feed enough of them to make it worthwhile unless someone spikes the meat yield. Maybe a heard of Beak Things for eggs and meat? :)

I don't even want "mounts" in Kenshi 2. More animals/monsters to fight, maybe a couple of extras to buy/train and that's about it. Oh, and finally getting all the feeding mechanics, "food AI" and such done correctly and a realistic source of food/recipes for them. I have an animal food recipe, but it's not the same as having a "hay" crop.

[Cookie]

Originally posted by Morkonan:

*Some games do it, but they're much more a medium to large scale "sim" than Kenshi would be. We deal in minutes,hours and days. Those other sorts of games deal in weeks,months and years. It'd also take a lot of resources to feed enough of them to make it worthwhile unless someone spikes the meat yield. Maybe a heard of Beak Things for eggs and meat? :)

Well, we do have Pups growing into Elders system already, they just have to decide how long the gestation period is