Kenshi
Warnoise Dec 11, 2018 @ 5:06pm
Do fogmen have infinite spawning?
So i have my base near fogmen base. I defended my outpost from an attack by the shek, i barely survived so while i was busy fighting off the shek, one of the fogmen bastards snatched one of my downed guys and took him to their camp near the base.

I sent a couple of my elite fighters thinking they should clear the camp since it had like a couple of dozens of fogmen.

By the time i finished off the remaining sheks, I found out my fighters standing a big pile of corpses still fighting a huge group of fogmen, since they also are being worn out by the hits, i decided to add in couple more fighters. one of the elite fighters fell down and got imprisoned by the fogmen so panicked sent in my whole squad (20 guys with 10 in 40~50's stats) and 2 pack animals (1 eldel bull and 1 elder garu).

My god, it was pure chaos, they kept fighting for like 40 min non stop until only a couple of guys standing, the rest kept on getting ko'ed, then get back up, fight, then KO'd again. And fogmen kept on respawning non stop.

The problem here is that there are so many corpses that the lag made it unplayable. literally 3~4 FPS. I saved in the middle of the fight in case this is bug (to send to the devs) but i had to reload to more early save because it simply became unplayable. There are so many deads, that whoever gets KO'd, doesn't fall, it just keeps standing...

I am sure i killed more than a 500 of them yet they skill kept coming in endless stream.

And also, in the middle of the fight, the Fogmen army that was supposed to raid my base spawned it in the middle of the battle so maybe that triggered the bug? maybe they kept getting respawned infinitely?

Here is like after 20 min of fighting...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1588384606

Here is like after 50~min....it became unplayable because of the lag..

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1588385245
Last edited by Warnoise; Dec 11, 2018 @ 5:24pm
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BLKCandy Dec 11, 2018 @ 5:42pm 
"Nest" will respawn its population to the set limit unless it got wiped. Though nest respawn should be quite slow. And then there are roaming squads which just spawn randomly from the biome spawn list. Having a couple reinforcement squads joining in isn't so strange.

That said, having continuous 50 miniutes fight is strange.
Bota May 10, 2019 @ 9:25am 
I had the same infinite spawning problem with Fogmen. Cleaned 1 camp and it had still 270 roaming population. They kept coming constantly but I thought I can handle 270 fogmen, so held them for like 10 minutes more, then the camp had like 140 roaming population left. Then like 30 mins later, after my squad was nearly decimated and hundreds of Fogmen bodies around, I checked the camp and it had 350 roaming pop!!! Wtf? :D It went like 270>140>350. Then I gave up and tried to run, but I could see squads of fogmen (like 30-50 units) spawning around me. I have seen it with my own eyes, they just appeared and charged my squad...
I restarted the game and loaded save from 2 hours ago and the camp said DEAD and the infinite spawning was fixed luckily.
I even met this behaviour again when I cleaned another camp (saying DEAD), but roaming population was growing like 10-20-40 etc. So I gave up and immediately loaded previous save and ran away, because I already knew where this was going... :D
done87 May 10, 2019 @ 10:52am 
get a pack bull and level it up a bit, it will wipe the whole fog man community with its aoe attack
Pyrrhus May 10, 2019 @ 1:16pm 
If too many bodies are piling up, leave the area or zone, they will disappear. I had similar situation fighting thralls in Venge, their waves just kept coming nonstop. Maybe cuz I had numbers of nests/camps in wild to maximum at import settings.
Locklave May 10, 2019 @ 5:02pm 
There is a 2 day despawn timer on dead bodies I believe, unless you are carrying them that is.
Hobo Misanthropus May 10, 2019 @ 5:03pm 
Originally posted by done87:
get a pack bull and level it up a bit, it will wipe the whole fog man community with its aoe attack

Or take a couple people with Naginata Katanas, about the only thing that weapon class is good for is Fogman hunting.
Endgunner May 10, 2019 @ 5:35pm 
Originally posted by Bota:
I had the same infinite spawning problem with Fogmen. Cleaned 1 camp and it had still 270 roaming population. They kept coming constantly but I thought I can handle 270 fogmen, so held them for like 10 minutes more, then the camp had like 140 roaming population left. Then like 30 mins later, after my squad was nearly decimated and hundreds of Fogmen bodies around, I checked the camp and it had 350 roaming pop!!! Wtf? :D It went like 270>140>350. Then I gave up and tried to run, but I could see squads of fogmen (like 30-50 units) spawning around me. I have seen it with my own eyes, they just appeared and charged my squad...
I restarted the game and loaded save from 2 hours ago and the camp said DEAD and the infinite spawning was fixed luckily.
I even met this behaviour again when I cleaned another camp (saying DEAD), but roaming population was growing like 10-20-40 etc. So I gave up and immediately loaded previous save and ran away, because I already knew where this was going... :D
My solo shek with stats in the 80s soloed 3 fogmen camps very close to one another. The fight only lasted 28 minutes tho thanks to my MKIII fragment axe.
Last edited by Endgunner; May 10, 2019 @ 5:35pm
Morkonan May 12, 2019 @ 9:13am 
I had this issue the first time I went to the Fog Islands for "Training." It went from a simple Training Op to "Survival Mode With Extreme Prejudice."

There was a constant stream of Fogmen groups. I don't know if there was, at the time, some sort of "shared aggro" that functioned to call all the other groups or not. (This was several patches ago.) I didn't have any mods installed at the time, either. I don't remember how long the continuous engagement lasted, but it ended with me running for Mongrel. Athletics > ALL

I could have, perhaps, continued combat through one more group. But... I was tired. I have no idea how long the entire engagement lasted from start to bug-out, but I was getting bleary-eyed. No more room in character's backpacks for loot, several characters being carried...

Ammo low = time to go :)

PS - I haven't had this happen again. It could have maybe been some kind of glitch-on-first-load or something deeper, dunno. But, the next time I see a literal "train" of Fogmen all beelining for my position, I'll know I had better be prepared for a real fight. (The prior experience included a "Conga Line" sort of formation of Fogmen, all running to where the combat is occurring, seemingly with each individual having it's own "goto" coordinate. Kind of strange for Kenshi.)
Last edited by Morkonan; May 12, 2019 @ 9:17am
Guts May 12, 2019 @ 9:54am 
Fogmen exist in the thousands in fog lands. They all work together to put you on their eating poles and each group that comes across you will join the fight against you. Fogmen patrols seem to be so prevalent that you'll almost never see any other group in the area unless they're on the eating pole.
Last edited by Guts; May 12, 2019 @ 9:54am
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