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StoryTaleBooks 2019 年 4 月 16 日 下午 8:50
What's the best food?
I just spent a playthough with cactus and chewsticks and was wondering what the best food source is? The game says cactus has the least yield but chewsticks require less cactus than green fruit for cooked vegetables. I have plenty of space and can make more food storage but I want to build a HUGE kingdom and need the most economical food source.
引用自 KellyR:
引用自 Knife Bipod
Oh wow and here I had 15 farmers and 4 cooks in my last playthrough just making chewsticks.
If you're planning on going big, I'd definitely go with food cubes or dustwiches (Depending on whether you settle in green or arid biome).

If you're in an arid biome, chewsticks give 20 Nu for 8 cactus. Bread gives 30 Nu for 10 wheat. Dustwiches give 70 Nu for 8 cactus and 1 bread, so same ingredients as a chewstick and a bread, but gives 20 Nu more than those would give together.

If you're in a green biome, Cooked Vegetables gives 25 Nu for 8 Greenfruit. Food Cubes give 75 Nu for 8 Greenfruit and a Bread. Same deal as before, you spend the same resources and get 20 Nu more out of it.

And of course the bread cooks itself, with a bread oven, so you don't need any more cooks than you would have before.

I'd recommend trying to settle in a Green biome, because Wheat grows better in Green than in Arid. It'll still grow in an arid region, but the yield will be lower for the same fertility.

But assuming a Green biome, switching from Cooked Vegetables to Food Cubes should see you gain about a 36% increase in NU produced for the same amount of labor.

In an arid region, switching to Dustwiches would yield a 40% increase in NU production compared to Chewsticks, but the lower yield of wheat there (About a 50% loss) means you're only going to see maybe a 20% increase.

Still better though :D
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Karina 2019 年 4 月 16 日 下午 10:59 
引用自 KellyR
Depending on whether you settle in green or arid biome
What about swmap?
KellyR 2019 年 4 月 16 日 下午 11:08 
引用自 Esteban Failsmore
引用自 KellyR
Depending on whether you settle in green or arid biome
What about swmap?
You're screwed, basically. You're limited to cooked rice, because Greenfruit only grows in a green environment, so you can't make Gohan until you get Hydroponics.

Unless you have a second base in a Green biome, or settle in a place with both Green and Swamp biomes, but that's only a handful of places in the game, most of them horribly dangerous or else low overall fertility.

Vain has 50% arid, 50% green, 20% swamp, but the fertility multiplier is only 75%, so your crop yields will suck hard. Fishman Island has 100% Green and 50% swamp, with a 1.2 fertility modifier, but you'd better have an *absurdly* strong crew if you try to settle there.

The Fishman swarms aren't really that strong, but they just. Keep. Coming.
Zee_ 2019 年 4 月 16 日 下午 11:12 
Gohan is the easiest to farm and cook with the best NU without mods. With mods, rations all the way.

Actually even without mods, rations are by far the easiest to get food with the highest NU as long as you don't mind breaking the law a bit. Just steal stacks of em from bars as you travel from town to town. There are always a few shadowy areas near the storage barrels.
Karina 2019 年 4 月 16 日 下午 11:15 
引用自 KellyR
引用自 Esteban Failsmore
What about swmap?
You're screwed, basically. You're limited to cooked rice, because Greenfruit only grows in a green environment, so you can't make Gohan until you get Hydroponics.

Unless you have a second base in a Green biome, or settle in a place with both Green and Swamp biomes, but that's only a handful of places in the game, most of them horribly dangerous or else low overall fertility.

Vain has 50% arid, 50% green, 20% swamp, but the fertility multiplier is only 75%, so your crop yields will suck hard. Fishman Island has 100% Green and 50% swamp, with a 1.2 fertility modifier, but you'd better have an *absurdly* strong crew if you try to settle there.

The Fishman swarms aren't really that strong, but they just. Keep. Coming.
But you can grow swamp weed and sell it for profit. Possibly buying food.
KellyR 2019 年 4 月 16 日 下午 11:16 
引用自 Zee_
Gohan is the easiest to farm and cook with the best NU without mods. With mods, rations all the way.

Actually even without mods, rations are by far the easiest to get food with the highest NU as long as you don't mind breaking the law a bit. Just steal stacks of em from bars as you travel from town to town. There are always a few shadowy areas near the storage barrels.
Gohan is by no means easy to farm. It requires two biomes that coexist almost nowhere in the game. Unless you're talking hydroponics, in which case yeah.
Karina 2019 年 4 月 16 日 下午 11:17 
引用自 KellyR
Gohan is by no means easy to farm. It requires two biomes that coexist almost nowhere in the game. Unless you're talking hydroponics, in which case yeah.
Hydroponics? What about black desert or dead lands then? Black desert biom have 200 quality iron and copper if remember correctly.
KellyR 2019 年 4 月 16 日 下午 11:19 
引用自 Esteban Failsmore
引用自 KellyR
Gohan is by no means easy to farm. It requires two biomes that coexist almost nowhere in the game. Unless you're talking hydroponics, in which case yeah.
Hydroponics? What about black desert or dead lands then? Black desert biom have 200 quality iron and copper if remember correctly.
I just don't see the point even bothering to make a settlement at that point. You're so far up the tech tree that it'll be too easy and boring.
Zee_ 2019 年 4 月 16 日 下午 11:26 
引用自 KellyR
引用自 Zee_
Gohan is the easiest to farm and cook with the best NU without mods. With mods, rations all the way.

Actually even without mods, rations are by far the easiest to get food with the highest NU as long as you don't mind breaking the law a bit. Just steal stacks of em from bars as you travel from town to town. There are always a few shadowy areas near the storage barrels.
Gohan is by no means easy to farm. It requires two biomes that coexist almost nowhere in the game. Unless you're talking hydroponics, in which case yeah.

Hydroponics is easy. So yes, gohan is by far the easiest food without mods.

引用自 Esteban Failsmore
Hydroponics? What about black desert or dead lands then? Black desert biom have 200 quality iron and copper if remember correctly.

Once you have hydroponics you can set up shop pretty much wherever you want. The only issue you would have to worry about is power and water. So as long as there's either a good amount of water, you're set. Finding a spot with a good amount of water and a constant wind blowing through is a plus, since you won't have to waste crops to make fuel for generators.
Hobo Misanthropus 2019 年 4 月 17 日 上午 12:40 
The All mighty Food Cube is the superior food.

Dried Meat is always useful to replenish your food in the field though. Never miss the opportunity to take down a herd of Gars or Buffalo. Carry an empty wooden backpack for this purpose, you'll quickly fill it up on meat. Drop a couple campfires and get to work.

If you have a base in the Southern Wetlands, you can also automate Meatwrap production, one of the few locations you can do it. Set one person to scavenge meat, have (ideally a skeleton) man a powerful turret, as Swamp Turtles wander by, they'll get blasted, and they carry 14 meat (All raw, no foul) each.

The Wetlands are Green and swamp so you'll be able to get great wheatstraw production.

If you don't mind living the life of a highwayman, hitting Trader's Guild Caravans is pretty easy, and they carry enormous stocks of food. As long as you have someone who can run faster than the caravan, you can have a runner draw the escorts off, and have the rest of your team take out the pack animals.
最后由 Hobo Misanthropus 编辑于; 2019 年 4 月 17 日 上午 12:43
Karina 2019 年 4 月 17 日 上午 1:47 
引用自 Hobo Misanthropus
If you don't mind living the life of a highwayman, hitting Trader's Guild Caravans is pretty easy, and they carry enormous stocks of food. As long as you have someone who can run faster than the caravan, you can have a runner draw the escorts off, and have the rest of your team take out the pack animals.
Traders Guild supports slavery. Dont feel guilty robbing and killing them.

最后由 Karina 编辑于; 2019 年 4 月 17 日 上午 1:50
KellyR 2019 年 4 月 17 日 上午 3:39 
引用自 Zee_
引用自 KellyR
Gohan is by no means easy to farm. It requires two biomes that coexist almost nowhere in the game. Unless you're talking hydroponics, in which case yeah.

Hydroponics is easy. So yes, gohan is by far the easiest food without mods.
Again though, once you have hydroponics you're so far up the tech tree, that you've trivialized making and defending a base. It'll be too easy. Why even bother?
Karina 2019 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:02 
引用自 KellyR
引用自 Zee_

Hydroponics is easy. So yes, gohan is by far the easiest food without mods.
Again though, once you have hydroponics you're so far up the tech tree, that you've trivialized making and defending a base. It'll be too easy. Why even bother?
Because its a freaking sandbox.
KellyR 2019 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:34 
引用自 Esteban Failsmore
引用自 KellyR
Again though, once you have hydroponics you're so far up the tech tree, that you've trivialized making and defending a base. It'll be too easy. Why even bother?
Because its a freaking sandbox.
Doesn't change the fact that the point of the base building element is for it to be a Rimworld/Dwarf Fortress style *struggle*, and it's just straight boring without that.
最后由 KellyR 编辑于; 2019 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:34
Karina 2019 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:44 
引用自 KellyR
引用自 Esteban Failsmore
Because its a freaking sandbox.
Doesn't change the fact that the point of the base building element is for it to be a Rimworld/Dwarf Fortress style *struggle*, and it's just straight boring without that.
-If you start building early- you will get ♥♥♥♥♥♥. You need to level up your dudes first. Mkay.

-You leveled up your dudes and tech but now defending is easy and you dont get anything from owning an outpost.

Now im at loss of what do to next, where to start building and should i even try. Game is kinda pointless right now. And i partially blame forums for it. And especially YOU.
最后由 Karina 编辑于; 2019 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:46
angrytrex 2019 年 4 月 17 日 上午 5:07 
I prefer rations. Food cubes second, beyond that anything goes. Each Ration makes up several meals, and they take up less space than the other items which is helpful because you can carry more of them. As mentioned, caravans are the best source of rations, but most travel shops have them too.

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