Kenshi
Endgunner Apr 30, 2019 @ 12:33am
Polearms are HEAVILY under rated!
PROS:
+Deal as much damage as a Ketana, or more!
+Swing and block nearly as fast as a Ketana!
+Deal +DMG (Deal anywhere from +25% to plust %50!!!) to animals!
+Only one of them suffer from -Armor penetration! (the Naginata Katana.)
+Regular Polearms and Heavy Polearms have +30% armor penetration!
+All of them have more reach then the Nodachi and Naginatas swing nearly twice as fast!!!

CONS:
-The staff is nearly useless unless you are trying to incapacitate someone without them bleeding to death.
-Have nearly the same animations as all the other weapons but is held differantly.
-Are kind of rare, but you are almost guaranteed to find an MKIII Naginata or two in the Fog Islands

ENDING:
All in all this weapon class rivals the Ketana and puts the Hacker class to shame, i really have no idea why they get such a bad a bad rep, very good alt for if you don`t want everyone using Heavy weapons late game and using the method above i was able to get 5 people with MKIII weapons and combat skills in the high 20s going on 30s farming heads in just 30 in game days!
Last edited by Endgunner; Apr 30, 2019 @ 12:38am
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Singrave Apr 30, 2019 @ 12:43am 
someone said that polearms are the fastest weapon ingame.
Endgunner Apr 30, 2019 @ 1:09am 
Originally posted by lameover:
someone said that polearms are the fastest weapon ingame.
One of fore sure! I don`t know about the fastest but boy are they fast!
Last edited by Endgunner; Apr 30, 2019 @ 1:10am
Azunai Apr 30, 2019 @ 1:18am 
i don't think they are underrated. from what i've seen in the steam forum, most players seem to understand that polearms are pretty good.
Endgunner Apr 30, 2019 @ 1:43am 
Originally posted by Azunai:
i don't think they are underrated. from what i've seen in the steam forum, most players seem to understand that polearms are pretty good.
Yeah but nobody talk about em, and some people seem to hate them.
Endgunner Apr 30, 2019 @ 1:43am 
Its my weapon of choice if you plan on playing as a Hive Prince/Hive Worker.
Tommygun Apr 30, 2019 @ 1:56am 
It all depends on where you are at and what you are fighting. If you are in the ashlands fighting robots, then I want something like the Paladin's cross, but if I'm somewhere else killing beak things then a polearm is better.
Endgunner Apr 30, 2019 @ 2:14am 
Originally posted by Tommygun:
It all depends on where you are at and what you are fighting. If you are in the ashlands fighting robots, then I want something like the Paladin's cross, but if I'm somewhere else killing beak things then a Polearm is better.
Ah but see, Polearms are good for killing robots as well! You hit them so fast their heavy weapons can`t even swing, and if they do you block just as fast. Yes granted a cross does more DMG to robots, but you will only be hitting 2 robots instead of 3. And a lot slower at that, the Polearm is the second best weapon in the game for when your outnumbered. No matter what is out numbering you. Its like a heavy weapon but it has a chance of soloing somebody using a Ketana, really tho what is best about using a Polearm is it`s effective at killing everything meaning you can master it without worry of being too far behind another weapon.

Tho sadly nothing said here matters unless your a Hiver, and its almost as if Polearms were made for Hivers. The sad truth is that nothing beats a heavy weapons user with a STR more then 80 using a MKIII Fragment Axe. But when your playing a Hive Worker/Prince all you need is a STR of 25 so you can wear some good lite armor and you just might have a chance!
Last edited by Endgunner; Apr 30, 2019 @ 2:15am
Endgunner Apr 30, 2019 @ 2:18am 
PS: i Refuse to play as Hive Soldier or have them in my party as they can not wear masks/hats and therefor can`t go some places. But i love how Hivers look so much that i am willing to give up some -280 (That number includes -hp) total hp from a human to play as one in combat!
Last edited by Endgunner; Apr 30, 2019 @ 2:19am
Mauman Apr 30, 2019 @ 2:23am 
yeah, polearms are very good early to mid game weapons. I consider them to be better than katanas.

Their value as a weapon at the very least lasts longer than katanas.
Last edited by Mauman; Apr 30, 2019 @ 2:23am
Tommygun Apr 30, 2019 @ 2:38am 
I like having variety though. I usually run a squad of about 20 members with 8 Paladin's cross, 8 Naginatas, 3 Eagle's Cross and one medic with a Foreign Sabre. Then I might throw in a stealth ninja character in just for fun, but I guess I'm more into roll play more than a power squad player.
Endgunner Apr 30, 2019 @ 2:58am 
Originally posted by Tommygun:
I like having variety though. I usually run a squad of about 20 members with 8 Paladin's cross, 8 Naginatas, 3 Eagle's Cross and one medic with a Foreign Sabre. Then I might throw in a stealth ninja character in just for fun, but I guess I'm more into roll play more than a power squad player.
I am more into soloing as my PC sucks ass and anything over 5 people on my team makes the game take a lot longer to load. I think actually being connected to a character as to control them makes them take more processing power. As i spend most of my solo time in the Fog with mid levels of lag so idk.
letalis001 Apr 30, 2019 @ 4:22am 
Throughout history, most ground units in antiquity did use polearms of some kind for the reach that they have alone. so i am actually glad that the devs understood this and made them a prominent weapon for melee units to have. swords are sexier, it is true. but polearms were the go to weapon on the front lines for centuries.
kristianjakob Apr 30, 2019 @ 6:04am 
I have made a similar observation.

I recently speedleveled a char to around 75+ stats. Though only around 50 strength. (I pulled a guard from the black desert city and used him as training partner)

Then I invaded Heng.

First with a MKIII Nodachi
Then with a MKIII Long Cleaver

In both cases I already had 60/ 50 + weapon skills

Finally I bought a MKIII polearm. Despite not having any weapon skill to begin with I was actually incredibly surprised how well that worked out.

It is likely that my comparatively low strength didnt fully do a hacker class weapon justis. Still, I atleast have revised my perspective on them too. (Perhaps also because they dont require much strength to work)
Endgunner Apr 30, 2019 @ 9:58am 
Originally posted by kristianjakob:
I have made a similar observation.

I recently speedleveled a char to around 75+ stats. Though only around 50 strength. (I pulled a guard from the black desert city and used him as training partner)

Then I invaded Heng.

First with a MKIII Nodachi
Then with a MKIII Long Cleaver

In both cases I already had 60/ 50 + weapon skills

Finally I bought a MKIII polearm. Despite not having any weapon skill to begin with I was actually incredibly surprised how well that worked out.

It is likely that my comparatively low strength didnt fully do a hacker class weapon justis. Still, I atleast have revised my perspective on them too. (Perhaps also because they dont require much strength to work)
In order to fully use a MKIII Naginata you need 10STR in order to use it with armor you need around 25STR the extra 4 and 5 in both adding numbers is in case your chest gets hit.
kristianjakob Apr 30, 2019 @ 1:35pm 
Thats what I mean. A Naginata doesnt require much tp work with.

50 strength might be a bit low to really work with a hacker. So, the more modest performance, atleast compared to what I had imagined, of the cleaver might just be a reflection of that.

Eitherway, for soloing cities I give a first rate seal of approval to naginatas;)
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