How do people survive without a base ? How do you play this game ?

[KageEx]

There are players out there who don't like building a base , town etc. So how do you go about making your guys stronger and surviving ?

For me as a new player I thought , well If I need a army I need lots of food. To get lots of food I would need settle near a good location to farm , mine and be able to trade. And slowly start recruiting people. This is how I am playing.

So I am interested in learning how others play and survive. Especially how do people without a base play, get money , survive and build an army ?

[Tumble Trash᠌ ⁧⁧ Official]

I'm playing with out a base right now, and the way I get money is that I have a guy with really good stealth and assassin, and rob the shek's weapon shop, and sell to the way station near by. I then proceed to the same shek town and by all their meats, and the occasional ration pack.

[Caliburn]

Most successful bases aren't built early into the game, with weaker characters it's very difficult to fend off raids and so on.

Have you tried purchasing a house in a town to use as your 'base' to get started?

[BALTBVLL]

Originally posted by KageEx:

There are players out there who don't like building a base , town etc. So how do you go about making your guys stronger and surviving ?

For me as a new player I thought , well If I need a army I need lots of food. To get lots of food I would need settle near a good location to farm , mine and be able to trade. And slowly start recruiting people. This is how I am playing.

So I am interested in learning how others play and survive. Especially how do people without a base play, get money , survive and build an army ?

There are many tricks to raising your squads capabilities, dont forget that you can buy a house in a town that already exists, and you get free protection. Capturing bounties or searching old ruins is a good way to get income, however before that you often want to capture weaker enemies and knock them out, heal them up and then make them fight your squad to strengthen them. Thievery is by far the easiest way to get by, however it gets boring fast. I still use it to get large amounts of food from time to time whenever i cant be bothered to gathering a small sum of money on the fly. You can raise thievery by knocking out a far weaker enemy than yourself and waiting till he wakes up. If you stand around him he will play dead, you then try to steal items from his inventory. I've noticed that if the enemies are far weaker they will notice that you stole and it will contribute to your thievery, however they wont try to stop you. You can keep doing this till you have 100% chance to steal from any crate in any town.

Building a big squad is as simple as traveling around the world and picking up the best characters you can find. Protip: check the stats of a character before you buy them. Many useless characters, often greenlanders, will ask for 6K catacs to join you, you can often find specialized characters that have stats ranging from the 30s to 60's for 2-3K catacs. Shek are often better fighters aswell in my experience.

You can spend your money on ins or just buy housing in mutiple cities, and survive just as well. Most people want to build a town because it brings more challenges to the game. You suddenly have to devote guards to the town and deal with raids etc. Brings more fun to the game, but this is usally something you want to do after securing some income by other means and have researched enough tech to build a decent foundation for a town.

[Solitus]

Without a base? I get into fights with dust bandits; steal all their stuff and sell it in town. Buy food with that. When I start to run row on cats; go mine copper for a bit to inflate your reserves.

The first thing I buy is a trader's backpack. That alone skyrockets your earning potential.

Also, keep your squad smallish at the start. Maybe 5 or 6 characters. Less mouths mean less to feed. The early game is all about getting your butt kicked in fights that you choose that won't leave you dying. And that means being small and fast enough to be able to choose when to engage. Grab a pack of bandits; lure them to some town guards; and either help in the fighting or loot the dead and dying.

[Locklave]

Buy a house in a Major city, then you have a base without having to build everything or defend it. Don't buy a house in the Hub, that's not a real city.

- You build up research
- Gather materials for crafting, mainly hides and store it
- once you get a good supply have them craft leather from the hides getting Armorer skillups
- once you reach minimum 60 skill and have no more hides crafting time
- craft traders clothing or Merc Leather if you have the recipe

At this point you can craft armor worth more then the materials involved, meaning you can buy leather/cloth and turn a profit

- equip your guys when you are stable
- use the cash to by tons of food
- make armor for your guys

Armor I suggest making for use
- Merc leather/Dustcoat
- Leather turtleneck
- Drifters boots
- Rattan hat

At this point your crafting is in the specialized/masterwork range and you are 100% stable for food and money. You can then focus on more advanced research items and you can bankroll weaponsmith even thought it's a loss of cash.

Once you hit Specialized with weapons the world is open to you. You have steady cash and can outfit/train troops.

Personal suggestion, do it in United Cities. Once you are able to make cash off production you can buy an Alliance with United Cities and the Trade Guild for 100,000cats each, allying with the traders makes you allies with the slavers for free. Slaves are the best source of new troops and allows you to buy for specific races/genders if that's what you want.

[Bl4ck]

The easiest way I discovered for me to get lots and lots of food, without having an own outpost, is to buy a house in the Squim Shrek city.

The rest I have marked as spoiler. Also please exuse my english, I am no native speaker ;-)

It is very close to the swamp biome, just a short distance to walk in the north of the swamp biome.
There are some villages where you find about 4 fields of riceweed, which can be farmed and looted by the player. The game shows "100% chance to steal", but actually the villagers do not care about you looting the fields riceweed. Just one farmer char can make hundreds of riceweed within a fews days, just buy one of the cheap 4000 Cat houses and build a riceweed storage box. Actually I am constantly running out of storrage space to store all the riceweed, dispite having several storrage boxes. You can either send a small caravan to the village and back to your house in Squim or do it with a "runner" char, who should have (very) high speed, to outrun the bandits and blood spiders who might attack, tho that happens rarely. I am combining this with the stacking backpack and a good cooking char in Squim, resulting in more than enough ricebowls than I consume with ~25 people (including 10 Shrek with their 125% food consume). I could easily feed more than 25 people that way, but at the moment those are enough for my needs.
The same is possible with hemp fields in other swamp villages, where you can farm dozens and hundreds of hemp/fabric.

--> This worked so well, that I had no reason to build an own outpost, since having an endless fabric supply, crafting armour and selling that stuff, enabled me to simply buy all the iron plates, research books, building materials, etc I needed. Now, after having researched all tier two research stuff I am kinda forced to get an outpost, to explore ruins and get the advanced research items.

--> All in all this is the easiest way I discovered for myself so far, might be a bit of an exploid, but the more common method of kiting groups of bandits in city guards, let the guards kill them, quickly loot the bandits, sell their stuff and buy food/gear/partymembers/etc, is not that much better, in my honest opinion^^

[bunny de fluff]

Money is almost nothing in this game if you are not aiming for those edge 3 weapons sold at scraphouse in the Deadlands. The most important thing is to not let your fighter go a week without fighting something, because the soft and hard cap of fighting skills in this game are very hard/very time consuming to overcome, you need them to keep improving, or else they would be too squishy . This is actually a game about fighting with your troops.

[BALTBVLL]

Originally posted by Bl4ck:

(including 10 Shrek with their 125% food consume).

[SmallGespenst]

The answer to how you build an army without a base is: you don't. you probably don't need to either, it doesn't take an army to explore, and you can make plenty of money selling loot, bounties, artefacts... you get the picture. the matter of getting stronger is similarly simple, it's just stats, your characters fight, they get stronger, they fight tougher enemies and get even stronger, it's a fairly simple gameplay loop, but it's pretty satisfying, once your characters are strong enough there isn't much that can stand in their way.

[bunny de fluff]

the problem with food and accommodation without your own base can be solved by many great suggestions above, especially those who told you to grind your weapon and armor crafting skills so that you can make high quality products worth a lot of money. Buy some houses in town, set up simple money making production lines, and then prepare your fighters to venture out and fight ! Watch the limbs fly ! And then go back to heal and or sell the loot, or do ai core research.

[AKOOMA]

I just run hashish from the swamp towns to flats lagoon.

I make 50k cats or more every trip with only 3 guys. I also buy mercs every trip if it is an option as the path is dangerous.

170 per Kilo to buy

Sells for 750 a kilo.

just keep doing it til you feel ready to move on to better things. Its a great way of training strength and combat. I suggest buying anti spider/beak thing weapons to make it that much easier.

[Raymond]

You can everything you can do in a town without a town in this game. You can farm iron/copper for cat and use them for money for food. Once you have enough money you can start buying mat from shop to produce profitable trade goods inside a town and start running a shop. There are many other way to make money as well so cat is never a problem. Regarding to training, some other people may have say it already, but I find training with prisoners is kind of ineffective. Going to dangerous zone like Bask can improve your fighting skill a much more quicker.

[EvilNecroid]

im currently living in Squin and i got a copper storage in my house and about 5 guys who constantly sprint outside and grab copper and bring it back to my house and then i just sell it and buy stuff

[Spack Jarrow]

Originally posted by KageEx:

There are players out there who don't like building a base , town etc. So how do you go about making your guys stronger and surviving ?

For me as a new player I thought , well If I need a army I need lots of food. To get lots of food I would need settle near a good location to farm , mine and be able to trade. And slowly start recruiting people. This is how I am playing.

So I am interested in learning how others play and survive. Especially how do people without a base play, get money , survive and build an army ?

First I became master thief , which is easy sneaking around town and stealing from nobles.
The nobles often carry Legendary grade weapons, which sell for tons.
Around 80 sneak I can navigate any ruin freely.

Next I burned my feet away and installed 2 sprint masterwrok limbs , they give me +80% speed so there isn't anyone who can catch me.

With this I can walk into a ruin where there are 30,40 inside and make it out safely.

Then I practice my assasination to high level , I can then assasinate certain major figures for loot and rewards.

once my house is decked out I start my combat training , First I kidnap people and put them in cages, so I can fight them whenever I feel like it.