Pinball M

Pinball M

View Stats:
Dec 7, 2023 @ 1:53pm
Pinball M - Patch Notes (V. 1.0.2)
< >
Showing 1-15 of 26 comments
Weeddrunken Dec 7, 2023 @ 1:56pm 
Great tables so far :peace:
Pinballwiz45b Dec 7, 2023 @ 2:04pm 
- Purchased DLC tables should now remain fully accessible while being offline.

EDIT: Spoke too soon, please disregard. My apologies, looked like the save needed to be synced with the patch online first.
Last edited by Pinballwiz45b; Dec 7, 2023 @ 7:46pm
PC GAMER Dec 7, 2023 @ 4:10pm 
Just got back from my walk, good to see the first patch and the "DRM" fix. Good. Should not have happened to begin with, but okay.

Zen, let's sort out the leaderboard issue before it gets nasty. All I and most players (even if they don't know it) want is two simple things. They are mere edits/options to the existing structure.

1.) Offline score saved and displayed on one's own leaderboard. You think not saving and displaying a score a legitimate user gets is some "anti piracy" deterrent? ..and if you are worried such scores could easily be edited, here's the 100% counter. For games played offline, save the scores into a local save file, (which you do anyway for other things, and that is normal) and display those scores only to the player themselves and not sync or upload them online. So any claim that a user could play offline, edit "something" (sure) and then get those scores uploaded online, should not be a factor at all. (Aside from the fact that it would be possible to upload offline scores with 100% legitimacy by using encrypted files anyway, which you already do!!)

I have not yet played M since I purchased all tables, instantly at release, (and today all FX ones too) too busy, but the demo, even though it claims to have offline scoring, it did not save my score anywhere. I got it, showed the splash screen, but after that when going to all offline leaderboards (which is strange that they exist - so maybe it is a demo thing, I'm praying and will edit this post later if so!!) they were all empty.

tl;dr Why is it Zen policy to deliberately not save a player's scores for tables (forever and populated by each table's leaderboard.) if they play offline? I do not care nor want such scores synced to the "cloud" or uploaded to "compete" with others. So if the "issue" would be "possible offline score manipulation which then gets uploaded and become online scores and, blah blah", sure, yes, but there is a 100% counter to that. Since those scores are, technically speaking, meant for the end user player, do not upload those. Simple. You play whilst connected online, the scores (as happens now anyway) get "onlined". You play offline, and the scores get saved to a local file (obfuscated/encrypted even, if you must) which resides on your PC along with the rest of the "saves", which you make/update as part of normal game changes anyway. I could go on, and absolutely prove this is deliberate and for no legitimate reason, but well, I just have. If M happens to actually do that, (demo did not) XOXO, and I will return with joy, but FX does not and so the same issue affects FX, in fact even more so, so my post is for both FX and M.


2.) Add an option/setting to allow end user to pick which "type" of leaderboard is the default one that gets shown automatically. As it is, it's the "global" one that displays player names from anyone around the world. I would like to change that, to my own/local scores.
tl;dr Players should have the option and be able to select which type (global/local/friends only/etc) of leaderboard is displayed - and for that to be saved for good, so not manually and temporarily. Just add that setting to the same place other game settings (ie: resolution) get saved. Once done, it is done and some people will be able to set which board shows and in what order. Why would you not have that option already as part of "good housekeeping" after two decades (is it? ..close anyway) and now four (PC) pinball games, is beyond me.

This is for both FX and M, but especially M.




:steamthis: :steamthis: :steamthis: :steamthis: :steamthis: :steamthis:
Last edited by PC GAMER; Dec 7, 2023 @ 4:12pm
DukeoftheHill Dec 7, 2023 @ 4:15pm 
-Adjusted ball behavior on the left orbit of The Thing Pinball table, to prevent straight down the middle ballouts.

At least you guys did literally the bare minimum to fix the unfairness of that table, I guess
Very nice fixes, good stuff.
code2quest Dec 7, 2023 @ 5:57pm 
Looking good waiting on a freddy table hoping
Originally posted by code2quest:
Looking good waiting on a freddy table hoping
Freddy, Jason, Pinhead, Michael Myers and let's not forget Ghostface:lunar2019grinningpig:.
Mr wyrmwood Dec 7, 2023 @ 6:19pm 
Thanks Zen, survival stage for Duke's campaign is no longer impossible, nailed it in a few attempts. Nice to see other campaign scores have been adjusted too, going to re-play the stages where I already have 3 skulls but my score is less than the new requirement. Much more balanced now.
narc0sis Dec 7, 2023 @ 9:17pm 
Originally posted by Mr. No_Effs_Given:
Originally posted by code2quest:
Looking good waiting on a freddy table hoping
Freddy, Jason, Pinhead, Michael Myers and let's not forget Ghostface:lunar2019grinningpig:.
I think Hellraiser would be the best
Septon Dec 8, 2023 @ 12:41am 
Thank you!
Akos  [developer] Dec 8, 2023 @ 1:22am 
Update:

Table fixes are not PC specific, but the game fixes at the bottom - also added a hotseat fix
knuddelholic Dec 8, 2023 @ 4:05am 
Thanks to the team and all the beta testers.
Holla-Pain-Yo! Dec 8, 2023 @ 7:11am 
Thanks for updating the tables. I wish DBD wouldn't drain in the out lanes every 5 seconds. I've been playing FX tables since 2010 release of FX2 and DBD drains more in the sides than any table I've ever played. It makes me feel hopeless just like DBD usually does. Spot on take of the game ;)
Last edited by Holla-Pain-Yo!; Dec 8, 2023 @ 7:12am
POLYBIUS Dec 8, 2023 @ 9:26am 
dont recommend supporting this company. likely they will charge you for these tables and then DC this product and make a new game hub so they can charge you again. this is a BAD predatory company that will take any opportunity to abuse their player base. TRASH this company is trash.
< >
Showing 1-15 of 26 comments
Per page: 1530 50