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Ramp[GER] Oct 14, 2014 @ 8:35am
Whats Yard-Time Regime for?
Has a Yard-time any benefit over just giving freetime and put some weight benches anywhere?

Additionally, has a Visitation Room any benefit over just placing enough Phones?
Last edited by Ramp[GER]; Oct 14, 2014 @ 8:35am
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Mansen Oct 14, 2014 @ 8:35am 
It forces them into the yard - More control of their location.
Proteus Oct 14, 2014 @ 9:17am 
I for my part use the Yardtime for Max security prisoners when min security and protected custody prisoners have worktime.

This way max security prisoners are kept in as controlled region (i.e. the yard) but still have the chance to attend to any reform programs that may be running during the worktime of min sec / PC
(if prisoners are in lockdown in their cells they don´t take part in reform programs that are running during this times ... in work slots that don´t have them locked down in their cells, they may attend them)
Emmote Oct 14, 2014 @ 9:33am 
As the others have said, it's mostly used to put prisoners in a specific location rather than for the excercise benefit. Either just before Eat time so they have less distance to travel for Eat time, means you can use 1 hour instead of two (only if your Yard is next to your Canteen of course). Or as Proteus said, explicitly keeping your dangerous prisoners in a specific spot while your at-risk ones are out and about, probably Eating.

As for Visitation, yeah. It usually completely empties the family need in one go. Phones on the other hand only lower it slightly.
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Zorlond Oct 14, 2014 @ 10:26am 
I've actually noticed complaints coming up when I levy lots of Work time for my prisoners. I wasn't really sure why, but I switched an hour of Work into Yard time, and the daily complaints seemed to lessen significantly.

My guess is that so many prisoners were working that they just weren't getting any time to exercise or be outside. I did have a ton of workshop, cleaning, cooking, and laundry job slots open, after all, on top of the programs.

Something to keep in mind if you've got a lot of prison labor going on.
Citizen_Cannon Oct 17, 2014 @ 1:52pm 
Free time has a negative impact on reform, ideally you want to place enough facilities in the yard and use yard time to fufil needs (along with lockup time and in cell activities) to avoid the need for free time and freeing up common room for program activities.
Pyr0 Oct 17, 2014 @ 2:05pm 
You can also grill them for work 24/7 and they will only atcually come when they come insomnia or winning.
Pyr0 Oct 17, 2014 @ 2:06pm 
More free time is bad, especially more than 1 hour for maxers
Mansen Oct 17, 2014 @ 2:08pm 
Originally posted by Pac:
Free time has a negative impact on reform, ideally you want to place enough facilities in the yard and use yard time to fufil needs (along with lockup time and in cell activities) to avoid the need for free time and freeing up common room for program activities.

Interesting - So basically free will combats the efficiency of your ability to reform the prisoners? Does it go for all types or just the more violent ones?
Mansen Oct 17, 2014 @ 3:09pm 
Sorry Max - But that is just plain spam. You really didn't have to post this in every thread - Next time please create a separate thread yourself and save the moderators cleanup work...
Max_Regime Oct 17, 2014 @ 3:23pm 
i deleted this mess, sry
and for this thread - Free time and Yard in fact may seem to be the same but:

Yard - cant remember but it was outside or environment need, so in Yard time the will be outside for sure.

In Free Time they can go tv or sofa, something other and MAYBE Yard - but it is not for 100% they will go Yard in free time to decrease recreation/outside need.

so maybe this little diffrence ?
Last edited by Max_Regime; Oct 17, 2014 @ 4:14pm
Ramp[GER] Oct 17, 2014 @ 11:50pm 
Originally posted by Pac:
Free time has a negative impact on reform

I dont think so. Why should this be true? Please explain.

My Prisoners have a lot of free time, no problems with reform


Originally posted by Pac:
ideally you want to place enough facilities in the yard and use yard time to fufil needs

Yes true. In fact placing objects, that lower needs is a good idea all the time everywhere, if possible




Originally posted by ^1Pyr0:
More free time is bad, especially more than 1 hour for maxers

Why? As long as they are separated, where is the problem with it?



Originally posted by Mansen:
Interesting - So basically free will combats the efficiency of your ability to reform the prisoners?

I have reasonable doubt this is true.
Emmote Oct 18, 2014 @ 2:37am 
Originally posted by dierampe:
Originally posted by Pac:
Free time has a negative impact on reform
I dont think so. Why should this be true? Please explain.

You haven't had a proper look into Grading have you?

Punishment:
- Positive: Years Served in Prison, % of time spent in Lockdown and % of time spent Supressed.
- Negative: % of stay in Reform Programs and % of time spent in Free Time.

Reform:
- Positive: # Passed easy/intermediate/advanced programs, % of stay in Reform Programs and % of stay working.

Security:
- Positive: % of stay in Lockdown and % of stay under armed guard or supressed.
- Negative: % of stay misbehaving, # times Involved in violent incidents, # murders comitted and # attempts to escape.

Health:
- Positive: % of stay well fed and % of stay exercising.
- Negative: % of stay with injuries, % of stay intoxicated and # active addictions.

Notice how the only effect Free Time has on those reoffending rates is Negative in the Punishment section? It increases the chance of the prisoner reoffending.

Of course, if you're going for a reform prison, you won't much care as you'll be getting a lot of positives from the Reform section, but every little helps get the reoffending rate down.
Last edited by Emmote; Oct 18, 2014 @ 2:38am
Ramp[GER] Oct 19, 2014 @ 3:56am 
Well, after my proper look in the Grading I see this:

Free time has a negative impact on punishment rating -> yes
Free time has a negative impact on reform -> no
Emmote Oct 19, 2014 @ 4:30am 
But just because you run a Reform prison, doesn't mean the Punishment score doesn't effect your reoffending rates, because it does. All four, Punishment, Reform, Security and Health effect the reoffending rate regardless of what type of prison you've made.

If your punishment score is lower because you use a lot of Free Time, your reoffending rate will be higher.
Last edited by Emmote; Oct 19, 2014 @ 4:32am
Pyr0 Oct 19, 2014 @ 5:23am 
yard time should be used in place of free time to avoid lowering your grading scale and to avoid fights, and for staggering regimes so supermax and pc / gen pop do not run into each other in the kitchen or work. You can set anything you want (other than eating) between hours of 10 pm / 8 am, and some insomniacs will work all night long or go to the yard, others will sleep. I usually feed PC during sleep time, and supermax while gen pop is in the yard, and vice versa. Sometimes its ok to let supermax work, sometimes not, depends on how many armed guards you have, and if your willing to accept deaths. Even if its not a security issue, having 200-500 inmates in 1 location at once is asking for a riot, don't do it.... Split the security levels into different yard / eating times. you really only need 3 regimes, not all 5. (min sec, normal, max sec, usually play nice) But max sec will merk your pc guys instantly. Also supermax will cause fights with everyone else and will attack just about anyone. Don't use armed guards unless your gonna turn on free fire, cause you be sorry once a legendary takes that shotgun, he'll massacre half your prison.
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