Need option to send repeat killers(supermax) to death row

[iTraumatik]

We need option for sending a prisoner that killed inmates to deathrow. Or just better modablility so we can setup a system to do it ourselves since its a "touchy" subject, lol. Or send the repeat killer to a review board to get sent to deathrow. Also having a deathrow should have some sort of calming effect every time someone is executed. Prisoners would be like "Ooo crap" jimmy was just executed ... maybe i shouldnt shank that special someone that i hate.

[8mm Solutions]

The difference between prisons and death camps is that the guy in charge of prisons isn't the guy in charge of deciding who lives and who dies. I think the game you want is "Dachau Architect". Don't feel bad about being confused judging by this discussion board it seems that a lot of people playing this game have made the same mistake.

[Azrael]

Read the proposition, he wants an extra instance that sentences the prisoner to death with a certain chance, he doesn't want to do it by himself.
So before doing any Prison vs. Concentration Camp Comparisons, carefully read the proposition first.

[Black Mirror]

We need an option to not put whole prison in lock down mode during execution, cause its damn lame, and will cause riots.

[Azrael]

No, I think thats allright, you have to remember, the relatives of the killer and of the victim and lawyers and so on come to witness the execution, you don't want them to be killed by an aggressive prisoner on meth.
Alternatively, you can try doing executions only in the night just like in RL.
Then all prisoners are alrdy locked away so lockdown should do no harm.
Maybe they do the executions in Reality at Midnight for that Reason, to cause no riots.

[Jakubias]

Im guessing theyre never allowing transforing maxsec/like to death row. Some modder would just abuse the system and "concentrate", as they said on alpha vid.

[iTraumatik]

Originally posted by rcy005:

The difference between prisons and death camps is that the guy in charge of prisons isn't the guy in charge of deciding who lives and who dies. I think the game you want is "Dachau Architect". Don't feel bad about being confused judging by this discussion board it seems that a lot of people playing this game have made the same mistake.

I think your the one confused. I never said that i want to "kill them all" type prison. In real life if prisoners start killing in prison there is a system to put them into "supermax" and then send them to death row or have a review board do it ( like i mentioned) . So take a step back and think about it.

[iTraumatik]

Originally posted by Azrael:

Read the proposition, he wants an extra instance that sentences the prisoner to death with a certain chance, he doesn't want to do it by himself.
So before doing any Prison vs. Concentration Camp Comparisons, carefully read the proposition first.

Thanks and yes this is a right conclusion...... a review board can take a look at a prisoner and say well he killed # of people while he was here , sooo % chance to send to death row....

[Waggy]

+1 to original suggestion.

But from the video you can tell the devs are afraid of getting bad press from anti-death penalty sources, so I don't expect much. They'd rather please those sources and answer to them than to us, their players, the reason they exist as a company.

[Penny Wyze]

+1 here! I

[iTraumatik]

Originally posted by Waggy:

+1 to original suggestion.

But from the video you can tell the devs are afraid of getting bad press from anti-death penalty sources, so I don't expect much. They'd rather please those sources and answer to them than to us, their players, the reason they exist as a company.

Yes, but its just a game. Thats why i suggested a full modding capability like they were working towards. Then if we want to we can setup a proper review board and send the repeat killers to deathrow based on a percentage or something along those lines.

[Thomas Robertson]

I am Happy that they have introduced the idea of death row to the game, however, I still think there are room for improvements, I agree supermax prisoners who have murdered while inside your prison, should at the very least, be sent to a place where 'other' people may make that decision to send them to our death row, in the prison, if the player cant change their class directly and when YOU think about it, in reality if a prisoner commits a crime, their sentence increases, so id hazard a good guess and say if a US guard was murdered, the prisoner might even be sent to death row, sending supermax prisoners to death row is a natural progression for the most heinous crimes.

[Hypnopaedia]

Originally posted by Thomas Robertson:

if a US guard was murdered, the prisoner might even be sent to death row, sending supermax prisoners to death row is a natural progression for the most heinous crimes.

Except, that prisoner is always sent to a different prison then where they killed a guard. The reason for this is obvious, the staff of the prison were friends and collegues of the victim and often want to cause pain and torment for the prisoner. The prison system wants to avoid these kinds of issues so they send the prisoner to another prison.

TDLR: I am for the idea if the prisoner is sent to another prison to go on Death Row.

[Hypnopaedia]

Originally posted by Waggy:

+1 to original suggestion.

But from the video you can tell the devs are afraid of getting bad press from anti-death penalty sources.

Really? How?

From the video I get the idea that they realize it's an important issue in our modern world.

Also, they are from England, which does not have the death penalty and the vast majority of people in England agree with that policy. So might it just be that they personally have reservations about the subject and are trying to treat it with respect?

Just because an opinion is different than yours, doesn't mean it's only the persons opinion because they are afraid of the "PC Police". It could just be that their values and world view are different than yours.

[Catra]

Originally posted by Azrael:

No, I think thats allright, you have to remember, the relatives of the killer and of the victim and lawyers and so on come to witness the execution, you don't want them to be killed by an aggressive prisoner on meth.
Alternatively, you can try doing executions only in the night just like in RL.
Then all prisoners are alrdy locked away so lockdown should do no harm.
Maybe they do the executions in Reality at Midnight for that Reason, to cause no riots.

They do that anyway. It's called visitation.

[iTraumatik]

Originally posted by Diana:

Originally posted by Azrael:

No, I think thats allright, you have to remember, the relatives of the killer and of the victim and lawyers and so on come to witness the execution, you don't want them to be killed by an aggressive prisoner on meth.
Alternatively, you can try doing executions only in the night just like in RL.
Then all prisoners are alrdy locked away so lockdown should do no harm.
Maybe they do the executions in Reality at Midnight for that Reason, to cause no riots.

They do that anyway. It's called visitation.

LOL i had a couple of "visitors" killed in the visitation room. Suprised me at first , then i was like, yep thats life...